[Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

Jonathan bigfatfrog67 at gmail.com
Sun Dec 1 19:14:35 UTC 2013

I would agree, the contact key has not taken off and may fit for phone 
or fax (although the old way is still more popular) the use for webcam 
is back to front.  Was the original intention to cover video calls like 



On 01/12/2013 17:11, Peter Wendorff wrote:
> Am 01.12.2013 16:05, schrieb Egil Hjelmeland:
>> On 01. des. 2013 15:28, Peter Wendorff wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm not happy with contact:webcam, as the contact namespace IMHO serves
>>> a different purpose.
>>> contact:webcam could define whom to contact for questions regarding the
>>> webcam, or whom to contact BY webcam (as contact:phone is for how to
>>> contact e.g. a shop by phone).
>>> 1) I would change the order, as it's part of the webcam information, not
>>> part of the contact information, which would lead to webcam:*
>>> 2) I would use url instead of contact, if it should refer to where the
>>> webcams output can be seen, whcih would lead to webcam:url=*
>>> regards
>>> Peter
>> Check https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:contact
> Yes, it's defined there, but that doesn't make it a good solution.
> It's used 180 times worldwide according to taginfo.
> A check through first 50 values listed in taginfo [1] reveals:
> 1) all of them are website urls
> 2) most of the URLs are dead or wrong
> 3) the valid ones are mixed: some refer to the image, some to a website
> containing the image, some probably even to a fixed image (not updated),
> but I couldn't check that properly.
> 4) 80 values are from the same domain and refer to cameras of the same
> operator or organization:
> http://www1.eot.state.ma.us/cam_updated_images/*.jpg
> To conclude this I would say:
> The tag is not yet used much (especially due to (4)).
> It is not used in a unified way (see (3))
> Therefore it's not useable in the current form.
> And as it doesn't fit semantically (it's not a URL to contact someone,
> but to see something), I don't see a big issue in "fixing" that by
> moving the tag to another key and to define it better.
> regards
> Peter
> [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/contact%3Awebcam#values
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