[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

Peter Wendorff wendorff at uni-paderborn.de
Sun Dec 1 21:59:16 UTC 2013

I would say it assumes hat cyclists in theory have to obey traffic rules
and a map should reflect what they have to do, not what they do.
Walkers cross lawns wherever they want if that's a shortcut and rules
against that aren't enforced strictly, but we don't map any possible


Am 01.12.2013 22:47, schrieb Jonathan:
> :-)  This whole discussion assumes cyclists obey traffic rules!  In the
> UK cyclists ride where they like!  :-)
> http://bigfatfrog67.me
> On 01/12/2013 21:38, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
>> On 1 December 2013 10:04, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I mean that bicycle=no bans  bicycles from the road, while the actual
>>> situation is that you have to use the cycleway if it leads where you are
>>> going (and nothing bans you from using the road). If you want to turn
>>> left
>>> for instance but the cycleway goes straight, you can use the road.
>>> There is
>>> no ban of bikes on the road.
>> I don't think this is true in the Netherlands. Situations like you
>> describe are quite rare in the Netherlands, but I did find one:
>> https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Marconibaan,+Nieuwegein,+The+Netherlands&hl=en&ll=52.02938,5.101267&spn=0.001149,0.004823&sll=51.566277,5.062965&sspn=0.002574,0.004823&oq=marconibaan&t=h&hnear=Marconibaan,+Nieuwegein,+The+Netherlands&z=18&layer=c&cbll=52.029299,5.10157&panoid=3G1tWOtoUdO_1hUBl5deXw&cbp=11,219.58,,0,2.4
>> I would expect that cyclists are not allowed to turn left on this
>> crossing at all, and I don't think they would be allowed to use the
>> main road here.
>> I'm also not sure why you think it is like you describe in Germany. It
>> certainly is not explicitly written like that in the law. Could you
>> point me to an example of such a crossing in Germany?
>> Perhaps the answer depends on the meaning of 'leading into the same
>> direction' in the convention: does making a turn qualifies as going in
>> a different direction, or does it just refer to forward and backward?
>> -- Matthijs
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