[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

Jonathan bigfatfrog67 at gmail.com
Sun Dec 1 21:47:26 UTC 2013

:-)  This whole discussion assumes cyclists obey traffic rules!  In the 
UK cyclists ride where they like!  :-)


On 01/12/2013 21:38, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> On 1 December 2013 10:04, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I mean that bicycle=no bans  bicycles from the road, while the actual
>> situation is that you have to use the cycleway if it leads where you are
>> going (and nothing bans you from using the road). If you want to turn left
>> for instance but the cycleway goes straight, you can use the road. There is
>> no ban of bikes on the road.
> I don't think this is true in the Netherlands. Situations like you
> describe are quite rare in the Netherlands, but I did find one:
> https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Marconibaan,+Nieuwegein,+The+Netherlands&hl=en&ll=52.02938,5.101267&spn=0.001149,0.004823&sll=51.566277,5.062965&sspn=0.002574,0.004823&oq=marconibaan&t=h&hnear=Marconibaan,+Nieuwegein,+The+Netherlands&z=18&layer=c&cbll=52.029299,5.10157&panoid=3G1tWOtoUdO_1hUBl5deXw&cbp=11,219.58,,0,2.4
> I would expect that cyclists are not allowed to turn left on this
> crossing at all, and I don't think they would be allowed to use the
> main road here.
> I'm also not sure why you think it is like you describe in Germany. It
> certainly is not explicitly written like that in the law. Could you
> point me to an example of such a crossing in Germany?
> Perhaps the answer depends on the meaning of 'leading into the same
> direction' in the convention: does making a turn qualifies as going in
> a different direction, or does it just refer to forward and backward?
> -- Matthijs
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