[Tagging] cycleway Tagging and Wiki-Page

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Sat Jan 12 23:53:02 GMT 2013


This dashed/solid distinction applies to the US as well (though some
states, such as Oregon, make lanes that have restrictions such as mandatory
turns or specific traffic types, separated by double-width lines as well).


On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Richard Mann <
richard.mann.westoxford at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think shared_lane is used when the bikes are sharing the lane with cars,
> perhaps with a cycle logo in the centre of the lane. Sharrows are when
> there are cycle logos to one side, but no lane marking (not very common in
> the UK; I've seen them in Brussels alongside parked cars, and they're more
> often referred to in the US).
>
> The main distinction in the UK is between solid white line ("mandatory"),
> which means it's exclusive to bikes (cars "must" not enter), and a dashed
> white line ("advisory") where cars should try not to enter. There is no
> obligation on the cyclist to use or stay in those lanes, and drivers should
> be prepared for a cyclist pulling out to overtake a slower cyclist (though
> whether that is culturally accepted in practice varies by location).
>
> For clarity, I'd probably go for cycleway:designation=Radfahrstreifen or
> cycleway:designation=Schutzstreifen, so someone who knows the rules is
> absolutely clear what you mean. You can try adding appropriate access tags
> for the cycleway and maybe the roadway as a whole
> (bicycle=no|discouraged+cycleway:bicycle=yes|designated), but the odds of
> this being done clearly and widely enough to be useful are dubious. As you
> say the bicycle=no might lead to some unintended effects, so maybe it would
> be better as roadway:bicycle=no|discouraged.
>
> Richard
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Balgofil <Balgofil at gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> in the German Forum [1] we had a discussion about cycle lanes (with a
>> lot of off-topic talk). In Germany there are two different kind of
>> bicycle lanes:
>>
>> 1. "Radfahrstreifen": cycle lanes which are mandatory indicated by a
>> sign and a solid lane (cycleway=lane)
>>
>>  2. "Schutzstreifen" cycle lanes with dashed lines not so wide as a
>>  "Radfahrstreifen" and therefore only advisory and no sign (cycleway=?)
>>
>> So one solution that was pointed out in the thread is to tag the
>> "Schutzstreifen" with cycleway=shared_lane because of the description
>> in the wiki. I then pointed out, that in the UK there is a similar
>> situation, but no solution to it (see [2] Limitations). But I don't
>> know what is meant with cycleway=shared_lane. So can someone specify
>> what is meant by this tag?
>>
>> My solution would be to tag a "Radfahrstreifen" with cycleway=lane AND
>> cycleway:bicycle=designated and a "Schutzstreifen" with cycleway=lane
>> AND cycleway:bicycle=designated. But this will break
>> backward-compatibility.
>>
>> In the wiki there is also a tag for sharrows. But the description
>> starts with "As shared_lane, ...". Does that mean that sharrows are
>> tagged with cycleway=shared_lane, or is cycleway=sharrow the tag
>> describing the markings on the road?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Balgofil
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] = http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=19585
>> [2] = http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cycleway
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