[Tagging] Observations on use of the diet: tag

Serge Wroclawski emacsen at gmail.com
Wed Jul 3 03:14:08 UTC 2013


  On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:34 PM, fly <lowflight66 at googlemail.com> wrote:

> I have no problem in reverting my changes but please give me one reason
> why you can not live with diet:gluten_free=*. I do not want to revert my
> changeset now only to have a bot redo it in a week.

I don't know how long you've been with the project, or in what form,
but something that always concerns me is this question of the role of
the tagging list, and wiki. Is the wiki descriptive or proscriptive-
that is does the wiki reflect the mapping that's done, or some idea of
what should be done?

My experience with mapping has been that after talking on the tagging
list, and being voted down, when I just went ahead and used my tags,
they were adopted by the community, on more than one occassion.

And eventually, when enough people used them in practice, the wiki
reflects the usage of the tags, because by that time, editors already
used them, despite the issue of voting.

If someone chooses a different tagging scheme than you, or a different
one than what's been "voted on"[1], they're free to do so. Time bears
out those differences.

You asked what I don't like about the diet tags, and my feeling about
them is that they're complex. I don't see the value in using
"diet:gluten_free" where "gluten_free" works just fine. And I'll
continue to tag objects that way. And others will tag items the way
they like, and eventually, one of those ways will have a clear
majority in the OSM database, and then it will be obvious which one is
accepted by the community. If people love diet:gluten_free, then I'll
switch.

But we're not there yet.

- Serge

[1] And it's important to realize that the votes on the wiki are a
subset of the list, and the list is a subset of the OSM community. The
real votes happen when people choose to use one set of tags vs
another. In other words, I will follow taginfo before I will follow
the wiki.



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