[Tagging] pastry and confectionery

[Andrew Errington]

Why not record the URL of the store in website=*?  That way people can
visit the store's website and see for themselves what they sell.

The benefit of this is that if the shop alters their range of goods
you don't need to alter the tags.  The store will update their
website.  So, all you need is a "top-level" generic tag (shop=bakery,
meaning general baked goods store).

Personally, I think generic tags are perfectly sufficient.  If I visit
an unfamiliar town, and I am looking for a certain item, such as
artisanal bread baked by unicorns, I am quite happy to see a list of
half a dozen potential places in OSM (maybe all tagged shop=bakery)
and then explore them myself to find out which one is best for what I
want.  Furthermore, when I am tagging I don't want to agonise over
which of 100 tags is appropriate.  This is the key to map making-
knowing what to omit.

Best wishes,

Andrew

On 7 June 2013 14:42, Johan Jönsson <johan.j at goteborg.cc> wrote:
>>>Michael Krämer <ohrosm at ...> writes:
>>> <..snip..>
>>> Basically I think we're on the same page: To my understanding we agree
>>> that there's a need to differentiate between the different kinds of
>>> baked goods. So the problem is how to classify and name these.
>>> But as pretty often I guess that's where trouble starts.
>>> <..snip..>
>
> Murry McEntire <murry.mcentire at ...> writes:
>>
>> <..snip..>
>>
>> 1) Pastries should definitely not be listed as a product of
> shop=confectionery.2) A more correct definition for shop=bakery is "selling
> cakes, pastries, pies and bread"
>>
>>  -- or tongue in cheek: "selling cakes, pastries, pies and sometimes
> bread, but rarely bread alone"
>>
>> <..snip..>
>>
>> Murry
>
> It looks too me that both american Murry and german Michael have found that
> a breadselling shop is different from a pastry-selling shop. So why not do
> as the Original Poster, Martin, wrote and distinguish these two.
>
> (The discussed problem seem to be that bread-shop is bäckerei in german and
> that pastry-shop is bakery in english, similar name for different things)
>
> We might even need to go so far to consider to abandon "shop=bakery" and use
> shop=bread and shop=pastry instead.
>
> p.s.
> Shop=bakery and shop=butcher where the first shop-values, when the shop-key
> broke out from amenity-key. These two really are old entities that have been
> with us in our culture for a long time and kind of demands to be tagged.
> d.s.
>
>
>
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