[Tagging] When was barrier=entrance abandoned ?

Dudley Ibbett dudleyibbett at hotmail.com
Wed May 8 20:40:03 UTC 2013

I'm afraid to say that it isn't abandoned as I am also using it in rural mapping as described below.

I would agree with the comment that people could tag, barrier=gate and entrance=yes and this would then no longer identify the current use of barrier=entrance which is a gap in the barrier.  Changing to using entrance=yes could therefore result in a loss of useful information.

I did look at entrance=* when deciding which tag to initially use and the wiki seems to be written in the context of an urban environment and entering something.  This left me with barrier=entrance.  I would think in terms of passing through barrier so this is easier to remember as a tag.   The wiki could do with some more detail but it seemed to fit better with the the general use of barrier=* in a rural context.  I must admit I was under the impression that a tag only became abandoned when it failed to progress in the proposal stage.  This tag seems to be in use given the taginfo is at more than 36000 so I don't quite understand how it can be abandoned.

I think that the status of abandoned should be removed.  I do however note that entrance=* is in the barrier=hedge wiki page for a gap, which adds to the confusion. There is no such description in the fence or wall wiki page but I was told that such a description should really be in the general barrier wiki page as it is relevant to all barriers.


> Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 04:01:51 +0200
> From: lowflight66 at googlemail.com
> To: tagging at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Tagging] When was barrier=entrance abandoned ?
> On 08.05.2013 03:32, Tobias Knerr wrote:
> > On 08.05.2013 02:56, fly wrote:
> >> On the wiki [1] barrier=entrance is marked as abandoned. Did I miss
> >> something or was this another edit without discussion ?
> > 
> > I don't remember a discussion about this.
> > 
> > A problem with the edit is that entrance=* is not limited to the cases
> > that barrier=entrance covers. For example, a barrier=gate could also be
> > an entrance=yes/main.
> > 
> > Of course we could adopt the assumption that a node of a linear barrier
> > with entrance=* and without any barrier=* tag has the same meaning as
> > barrier=entrance does now, but imo that interpretation should be
> > confirmed by a discussion.
> I do use the two tags in a different way. If it is an entrance leading
> to something (eg. building/amenity) I would use entrance=* but for a
> small opening within a wall/fence I use barrier=entrance. This way I do
> not have to cut the linear barrier.
> > PS - fixed link:
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier=entrance
> Sorry
> fly
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