[Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

Jonathan bigfatfrog67 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 29 20:02:33 UTC 2013

Why can we not have:


The overarching category of man_made=surveillance is important because 
no matter what the intention of a webcam it is pushing to the internet 
and therefore there is no control on who sees it and what they use it 
for, so you can't say it isn't surveillance because that's what it is.

This is in keeping with current usage and allows current renderers to 
capture any newly added "webcams" without recoding.



On 29/11/2013 13:24, Georg Feddern wrote:
> Am 29.11.2013 13:03, schrieb Egil Hjelmeland:
>> On 29. nov. 2013 10:32, Jonathan wrote:
>>> I would agree, I think that covers it.
>>> A webcam is surveillance, it's a camera that is watching you making 
>>> it available to anyone.  Some would say that is a greater 
>>> infringement than an official camera that is regulated.
>>> Maybe the wiki page needs re-wording to reflect that it doesn't 
>>> matter who is watching just that if they're watching with a camera 
>>> then it's surveillance.
>> I think we live in different universes. This is the kind of stuff I 
>> am interested in:
>> http://webcam.svorka.net/bollen/
>> http://webcam.sollia.net/image.jpg
> not living, just thinking:
> You can surveil the wheather condition, snow condition, forest fire 
> there. ;-)
> Well, I think I understand what you mean - I would have prefered a 
> generic man_made=camera instead of =surveillance.
> I normally can not decide which view angle, zoom or purpose it has.
> Only: There is someone watching - but what and why?
> Best regards
> Georg
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