[Tagging] Pre-proposal: gambling

Matthijs Melissen info at matthijsmelissen.nl
Sun Oct 6 18:28:33 UTC 2013


On 5 October 2013 10:25, Dan S <danstowell+osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2013/10/5 Matthijs Melissen <info at matthijsmelissen.nl>:
>


> > I notice that many users suggest distinguishing between casinos with
> > croupiers, and amusement arcades with just slot machines.
>


> Do you? I don't see that, but maybe I've missed it in the thread.
>

Martin Koppenhoefer, Philip Barnes, and Gilbert Hersschens all distinguish
'establishments with (mostly) slot machines (similar to arcade halls)',
'Places with slot machines [which] are called amusement arcades' and
'Gambling arcades a.k.a. amusement arcades with slot machines' from 'real'
casinos.


> > How would the community suggest establishing this split in tags? From a
> > previous discussion, it seems that some users do suggest not to
> (re)define
> > existing tags that are already in widespread use. Moreover, it seems that
> > some users think that mappers should follow existing use, not
> definitions as
> > voted or definitions from the wiki. However, I don't see how the split of
> > meaning of the tag can be established otherwise. Any suggestions?
>


>  It's not difficult to handle. You could propose a chained tag such as
> "casino=croupier"/"casino=self_service", or something like
> "casino:staffed=yes" or "casino:croupier=yes". That second option
> looks ugly to me, but the first option looks kinda useable. I don't
> have any strong opinions about what should be done.
>

The community seems to prefer a separation at tag level.


> Note that this has quite a strong analogy with the recent discussion
> about supervised vs unsupervised play areas for children...
>

On the other hand, there is also an analogy with the discussion on
amenity=restaurant versus amenity=fast_food. Some fast food chains call
themselves restaurant, and some amusement arcades call themselves casino.
However, if you promise to take someone to a casino and then bring them to
an amusement arcade, they will probably be just as mad as when you promise
to take them to a restaurant and bring them to a fast food chain.

-- Matthijs
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