[Tagging] Pre-proposal: gambling

Matthijs Melissen info at matthijsmelissen.nl
Sun Oct 6 18:28:33 UTC 2013

On 5 October 2013 10:25, Dan S <danstowell+osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2013/10/5 Matthijs Melissen <info at matthijsmelissen.nl>:

> > I notice that many users suggest distinguishing between casinos with
> > croupiers, and amusement arcades with just slot machines.

> Do you? I don't see that, but maybe I've missed it in the thread.

Martin Koppenhoefer, Philip Barnes, and Gilbert Hersschens all distinguish
'establishments with (mostly) slot machines (similar to arcade halls)',
'Places with slot machines [which] are called amusement arcades' and
'Gambling arcades a.k.a. amusement arcades with slot machines' from 'real'

> > How would the community suggest establishing this split in tags? From a
> > previous discussion, it seems that some users do suggest not to
> (re)define
> > existing tags that are already in widespread use. Moreover, it seems that
> > some users think that mappers should follow existing use, not
> definitions as
> > voted or definitions from the wiki. However, I don't see how the split of
> > meaning of the tag can be established otherwise. Any suggestions?

>  It's not difficult to handle. You could propose a chained tag such as
> "casino=croupier"/"casino=self_service", or something like
> "casino:staffed=yes" or "casino:croupier=yes". That second option
> looks ugly to me, but the first option looks kinda useable. I don't
> have any strong opinions about what should be done.

The community seems to prefer a separation at tag level.

> Note that this has quite a strong analogy with the recent discussion
> about supervised vs unsupervised play areas for children...

On the other hand, there is also an analogy with the discussion on
amenity=restaurant versus amenity=fast_food. Some fast food chains call
themselves restaurant, and some amusement arcades call themselves casino.
However, if you promise to take someone to a casino and then bring them to
an amusement arcade, they will probably be just as mad as when you promise
to take them to a restaurant and bring them to a fast food chain.

-- Matthijs
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