[Tagging] Proposal for new tag: landuse=plot

Serge Wroclawski emacsen at gmail.com
Wed Sep 18 11:04:59 UTC 2013


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:22 AM, SomeoneElse
<lists at mail.atownsend.org.uk> wrote:
> Lukas Hornby wrote:
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> In particular defnition seems to be key and I can confirm my definition is
> from a British perspective.
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> Which is fine, because OSM uses British English names for things except in
> rare cases.

The rare cases include when a word means something different in
British and American English.

Part of the problem was this proposal didn't explain the proposal
other than by using the same word as the tag, which left the reader to
use the terms that they would use in normal speech.

But just as OSM uses "soccer" instead of "football", when there's a
term conflict between British and American English, usually another
term is found that's more accurate.

> Community garden is different in definition, both here and in the US (and
> elsewhere) but a useful comparison, as the ethos and values are usually
> similar.

I still have yet to find a definition of "lot". Can someone point me
to one that is unabigious, from Wikipedia or a dictionary?

Wikipedia's definition of lot is the same as my own:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_lot
(that is what comes up when you type land plot into wikipedia)

And the term in usage:
http://www.scoutingny.com/?p=3034

Despite searching the web, I can't find a definition to match your usage.

> In addition to the UK I've seen allotments in other places in Europe, but
> not in the US - does the concept even exist over there?

We can't say until we know what the definition is, but my experience
is that with a country that's as large and diverse as the US, it
probably exists somewhere, whatever it is.

> Generally the OSM approach is "map all the things!" rather than "map some of
> the things, making sure that everything is categorised absolutely
> correctly".  That's not without its problems (as pointed out in the "lack of
> concensus" thread) but allowing people to add stuff local to them without
> necessarily worrying about "correct" tagging has got OSM to where it is now.

Yes. That's the right way.

> It may well be that almost no-one has mapped allotment plots before**, which
> may mean that you get to pick some scheme that works for you.  It'll almost
> certainly mean that there's no existing map that renders the data that
> you're interested in, so you'll get the chance to create that too.

I've seen community gardens mapped. It may make sense, if they're
similar, to hang off that tag.

- Serge



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