[Tagging] Map Features template

[John Packer]

>
> The purpose of such templates was to have the same list in all
> languages. If someone introduces a new entry, it's spread in all local
> pages. It's probably not translated immediately but it is by far much
> better to see it in English than to have to maintain manually
> separated pages/tables. [..]
>
I don't see this as a big advantage nowadays. People still have to maintain
manually separated pages/tables (and more pages than without these
templates). And as far as I can see, the wiki translation is _mainly_ done
for the sake of people that can't read english, so an entry in english
doesn't really help.
Also, if the original description is updated, the translated versions keep
the old version unless updated manually.

Soon the wiki will enable a rich text editor plugin to make the wiki easier
to use (and consequently invite more participation), so I want to ask
people to avoid using this kind of template, because they make some pages
harder to edit, without considerable advantages.

I think it has a good purpose in pages like the main "Map Features" page,
so I'm not asking to replace it (while we don't have a better solution).

The tag pages came later and probably many of them
> are even not listed in the Map Features where we only show the most
> popular and commonly agreed tags. We can also sort and group them
> differently from a simple alphabetic order or key string. Not
> something we can "program" easily.
>
This kind of page I suggested would only show the tags from a list, and not
every tag.
Ideally it would allow the users to either let the wiki automatically query
the metadata from that tag's page, or let the user specify what to show
(useful when there isn't a tag page for that right now).

But personally I don't intend to solve the redundancy problem with the main
"Map Features" page right now.
I just want people to avoid this kind of "Map Features Template" on normal
pages.

Cheers, John



2014-08-27 5:22 GMT-03:00 Pieren <pieren3 at gmail.com>:

> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:36 PM, John Packer <john.packer7 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Some people like these templates because it seems they can make new tag
> > values appear in non-english pages by adding them in the english page.
> > But this new value appears in english, so in my opinion it kinda defeats
> the
> > purpose of the non-english page...
>
> The purpose of such templates was to have the same list in all
> languages. If someone introduces a new entry, it's spread in all local
> pages. It's probably not translated immediately but it is by far much
> better to see it in English than to have to maintain manually
> separated pages/tables. We don't have enough active wiki contributors
> for such solution. The tag pages came later and probably many of them
> are even not listed in the Map Features where we only show the most
> popular and commonly agreed tags. We can also sort and group them
> differently from a simple alphabetic order or key string. Not
> something we can "program" easily.
>
> Pieren
>
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