[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Enhancing natural=peak tag

Daniel Koć daniel at xn--ko-wla.pl
Tue Jul 8 18:08:44 UTC 2014


W dniu 08.07.2014 18:50, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a):

> the tag, i.e. I would deliberately choose natural=peak for all kind of
> peaks and hilltops regardless their (geological) history. If someone
> took off some stones from a natural peak it would become a man made
> peak for you and you'd tag it differently?

Well, exactly! =}}}

And it's not just me - they are also important all over the world and 
have many purposes for quite a long time:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dcairn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairn

Moreover, mounds are artificial (man/aliens made? =} ) peaks by 
definition:

"A mound is an artificial heaped pile of earth, gravel, sand, rocks, or 
debris."

[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mound ]

***

The "natural/man_made" dilemma looks silly on the surface, but is very 
deep rooted.

We started with some general, light-weight ontology, which was enough 
for the beginning. But now we are no more just the "OpenStreetMap", 
rather "(The)OpenWorldMap". We got used to some old habits - like the 
very name of the project - but some cracks start appearing here and 
there. We just keep extending some tags just by historical reasons, not 
their merits ("highway=bus_stop" anyone?...), but it doesn't have to 
stay that way forever ("public_transport=*" namespace!).

If I was to define peak now, I would start with "terrain=peak", and then 
add "descent=natural" or "descent=artificial" to narrow it down when 
needed.

Sorry for such a big vision, but this list description allows us to talk 
about "tag strategy". =}

-- 
Mambałaga



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