[Tagging] "Relations are not categories" excepted for "type=network" ?

[Janko Mihelić]

I agree with Pieren, and would like to add that relations like these are a
problem when you try to download a small bounding box, and one of those
nodes gets in the way, and now you have to download all the nodes in that
relation. There's no need for that.

But there is one advantage with those relations, and that is protection
against newbies. Newbies can delete a tag from a node because of some their
strange reason, but they don't know how to remove a node from a relation.
There should be tools that mimic that.

Janko


2014-07-16 10:36 GMT+02:00 Pieren <pieren3 at gmail.com>:

> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The same is true for cycling and equestrian networks with numbered nodes.
> > There are a few of those networks in Germany as well.
> > These are not collections/categories. They are networks of route
> relations.
>
> Well, you could do the same for all McDonald's restaurants in
> Netherlands or all pharmacies in a network or bank branches in Belgium
> and say "we move one tag to the upper relation to avoid its
> repetition". What is done by such relations can be done by a query in
> the database with one or two arguments (like the "operator" or
> "network" tag) and a bbox (see XAPI, overpass, etc for more info).
> Repeating the network or operator or brand name is not a problem for
> many features in OSM. I don't see why we should create an exception
> for footway routes.
> As it was writen by Frederik Ramm in 2008 ([1]):
> "Our database is a spatial database; this means that it has intrinsic
> knowledge about the location of objects. If you want to know about all
> footways in East Anglia, simply pass in a bounding box of East Anglia
> and request all footways, and the collection is made for you
> on-the-fly."
>
> Pieren
>
> [1]
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Relations/Relations_are_not_Categories&oldid=179750
>
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