[Tagging] "Relations are not categories" excepted for "type=network" ?
Frank Little
frankosm at xs4all.nl
Wed Jul 16 20:23:15 UTC 2014
We don’t disagree that routes can change. But the point is that a route relation connecting two different networks (especially true, I believe, for the cycle node networks) is unlikely to change unless the network nodes change (and that does not happen much).
What does happen is that the actual route (which is in the route relation defining the roads and paths between the two nodes) may change for reasons you mention.
My point is simply that the number of connection routes between networks is relatively small and of those the number likely to change is very small indeed. (Note that changes to the actual roads used is irrelevant; those changes are found in the route relation, which is not what we are talking about here. This is about the “super-relation” for all the routes in a network.)
(I realise you grasp this, Marc. but not everyone reading this is familiar with cycle node networks (or walking node networks) I fear, from the responses so far.)
From: Marc Gemis
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:11 PM
To: Frank Little ; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Subject: Re: [Tagging] "Relations are not categories" excepted for "type=network" ?
O, did you ever walked along a walking network ? :-) The one in my neighbourhood (Rivierenland) changes almost yearly: farmers that decide that a route can no longer pass over their land, new paths are opened, and sometimes, nodes are just moved a few meters for whatever reason.
The network Kempense Netevallei has many nodes with only 2 routes. It's obvious that new routes will be added as soon as the paths are opened to the public. Perhaps, after the governments bought the ground form the current landowners.
I've heard that several changes where planned for the cycling networks in Flanders. Probably because new cycle path where constructed or due to new road layouts.
So both the routes and the collection of route (== the network) changes.
I've said several times on the Belgian mailing list that one should revisit all networks again every year, just to keep them up to date. BTW, the maps of Rivierenland that could be bought from the tourist office used the old nodes for several years. Some websites that use the "official" information from the Flemish tourist office had the same problem. Only OSM was up-to-date :-)
BTW, I'm not asking for retagging. I just pointed out that it could be done.
regards
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