[Tagging] RFC: crossing=*

Peter Wendorff wendorff at uni-paderborn.de
Tue Jul 22 12:04:13 UTC 2014


Hi André,
I think where a visible painting like at zebra crossings is painted
along a street as you describe, that isn't a crossing (it doesn't cross
anything), but more like a sidewalk without being raised or separated by
anything else but the color pattern on the ground.

Tagging those as crossing IMHO would be wrong.

regards
Peter

Am 22.07.2014 11:43, schrieb André Pirard:
> On 2014-07-22 11:01, Jo wrote :
>> FYI it doesn't seem likely that the event of dropping highway=bus_stop
>> or highway=speed_camera will be dropped in a foreseeable future,
>> meaning you'll have to keep double tagging everything.
>>
>> In Belgium all red light cameras do double duty as speed cameras, so I
>> didn't have this particular problem. Are you sure yours aren't speed
>> cameras as well?
>>
>> Jo
>>
>>
>> 2014-07-22 10:38 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss <andig88 at t-online.de
>> <mailto:andig88 at t-online.de>>:
>>
>>         I hesitate to just invent a new highway=*_camera tag, beause I
>>         don't
>>         actually like it to be under the highway key (something
>>         accepted for the
>>         speed_camera probably only of historical reasons)
>>
>>
>>     You could see how big the support in the community is replace
>>     highway=speed_camera key with a man_made=* As this is about they
>>     key you could always tag both and rounters etc. could adopt and
>>     support both and at some distant point in the future the highway
>>     key might be dropped. That's kinda what's happening to
>>     public_transport where the new system is adopted more and more,
>>     but highway=bus_stop stop is still used.
>>     _
>>
> 
> I have mentioned without much follow-up a similar issue with
> highway=crossing + crossing=*.
> What OSM calls "crossing", zebra stripes, is in fact a "passage pour
> piétons" which does not necessarily cross.
> In Belgium (too), we have quite a number of "passages pour piétons"
> painted longitudinally and it makes sense.
> Children's safety, for example, is just as important if they have to
> walk alongside on the road.
> Or it may be painted across a parking lot, in which case mapping
> highway=crossing ways make sense.
> crossing=* alone (which, as a highway=* tag implicitly means
> highway:crossing) is sufficient.
> 
> So, I am proposing:
> 
>   * to allow crossing=* on any highway=* when the painting is longitudinal
>   * crossing:right=yes, crossing:left=yes in that case
>   * highway=crossing for a way painted across an area
> 
> André.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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