[Tagging] Suggestions for the correct tagging of Field borders

[fly]

Hey list

Am 14.06.2014 09:01, schrieb Dudley Ibbett:
> In the UK what you describe sounds like a “field margin”.
>
> Here is an example web page, but search on google  under “field
> margins”
> for more information.
>
> http://www.wildlifetrusts.org/wildlife/habitats/arable-field-margins
>
> Farmers generally cultivate up to the field boundaries in the UK but
> there have been schemes to encourage them to leave “field margins”  to
> support wildlife.

Think we first have to get the tagging of landuse in general more
consistent. In my region I still find it connected with highways. One
user even did start to tag landuse as multipolygon-relations using the
highways and therefor did split the highways in lots of short parts.

As landcover=* is not rendered nor supported by many software, people
use landuse=grass or even natural=grassland for small stripes of grass
next to the road.

The major question we have to solve is where does landuse end.
* we do not have a tag for landuse=highway/road. Where does the highway
end ?
* where does landuse=farmland end ? In my opinion the field margin is
still part of the farmland
* how to handle tracks between fields ? There are some tracks which move
from year to year

All together I think the field margin can be tagged already using
landcover=*, but if you want to tag it explicit you could think about a
complete new tag like field_margin=yes or farmland=field_margin.

Just my two cents

fly

> Am 13.06.2014 14:35, schrieb Simone Saviolo:
>> 2014-06-13 14:15 GMT+02:00 Simon Wüllhorst <mail at simon-wuellhorst.de
>>
>>     currently I’m tagging the country around my place (farmland,
>>     farmyards, meadow and so on). Farmlands are typically surrounded
>>     or seperated by small areas/borders of several vegetations (trees
>>     bushes, at least in Germany), called Field Borders (or Feldrain
>>     in German, more Informations: http://extension.missouri.edu/p/g9421or
>>     https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feldrain). They are important for
>>     farmers (to improve crops growth) and they also useful for a
>>     better orientation and navigation in this country.
>>
>>
>>     I started a thread on forum.osm.org <http://forum.osm.org> (It’s
>>     a german thread, so if you have questions, please ask me) to get
>>     tips for the correct/ideal tagging of these areas
>>     (important:it’s an area, not a way!).
>>
>>
>>     In summary I got a lot of suggestions, for example natural=scrub
>>     or natural=wood, ….
>>
>>
>>     The problem of all these suggestions were, they all describe the
>>     type of vegetation and not the purpose of these areas. Besides >>
    the vegetation of these areas are much various, so you can’t
>>     describe them by using one or two “vegetation”-tags.
>>
>>
>>     According to the post of “dieterdreist”
>>     (http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=422045#p422045) I
>>     thought about to create/use a completely new tag/value.
>>
>>
>>     At this point I’m not shure which key would be correct. I’m
>>     thinking about natural=fieldborder or landuse=fieldborder. On
>>     the one landuse=fieldborder seems to be the better choise,
>>     because field