johnw at mac.com
Sun Mar 9 21:35:28 UTC 2014
This ties into my idea for landuse=civic. There is no way to designate the land use for city buildings, etc, except for narrowly defined ones, such as schools. There are courthouses, community centers, public performance venues, and other areas where the buildings have specific tags, but there is no good GENERIC landuse tag to go with it.
So for your item, landuse=civic, buildings get the proper tags (stadium, restaurants, community hall, etc) and the name of the place falls on the landuse, individual buildings get their own names. If we use a color (orange?) for civic, then the public buildings That aren't parks and schools should be easily seen, including event areas.
Fairgrounds are a common thing in America, and are usually multipurpose venues. San Diego's is a horse racing track, with large pedestrian spaces and buildings adjacent for hosting a circus, trade shows, county fairs, or outdoor concerts, as well as horse racing during the season.
If it is a private area, then landuse=commercial.
Events is a good idea for a landuse, but we need a couple more generic ones too, and these two seem related to me.
> On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:04 AM, Antônio Marcos <toni.oliv at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've never heard of "fairground", but it seems to be a quite specific tag that could be substituted by or even inside the events area. The events tag is indeed supposed to be generic, just like landuse=retail, which demarks areas used by shops, and the leisure or landuse key before the "events" value should denote that it is an area where events are carried on (like the ones you cited, circus, shows etc.). Maybe, if the area hosts a single type of event, it is considerable to create too an event_type= key that describes the type of event. I am considering changing back the key leisure to landuse, as it originally was supposed to be, because it is a land used for this purpose and may contain facilities (amenities and leisures) used during the events, such as pitches, toilets, bars and so on. An example of an area like this is a very famous rodeo place here in Brazil called Parque do Peão: http://binged.it/1h4EgcT. As you can see, there is an entire area used for it, where fairs are made and several amenities for the public are found: the rodeo event is not comprised only of the rodeo show made in the arena. And there are many other event-designated places in the world, I believe, thus I think OpenStreetMap is really lacking this kind of tagging. Back to the leisure/landuse discussion, stated some points above I think landuse fits better than leisure and I'd like some more opinions on this matter, please, before changing it back to landuse=events. If there needs any other improvement on this tag, please comment. Thanks.
>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2014-03-09 17:18 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos <toni.oliv at gmail.com>:
>>> I have created this proposal some time ago for a new tag called leisure=events (originally landuse=events), which should describe areas reserved for events in a city or in a place (more info at the proposal page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/leisure%3Devents). Does anybody have more opinions and suggestions on this, please?
>> I think "event" is not a good description for a place where events take place, something like event_space / event_place would already be better, but still seems very generic. What kind of events do you have in mind, folk festivals? parish fairs? trade fairs? concerts? beer festivals? just to name a few.
>> For these maybe "fairground" would be a good tag (not sure for leisure as a key, maybe use a neutral "amenity"?)
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