[Tagging] leisure=events

Mon Mar 10 00:01:09 UTC 2014

Thanks for the suggestions so far,

Martin, English is not my native, so in fact I haven't heard about
fairgrounds before :), but in the case I was referring to the value
fairgrounds, and I knew about it by searching at taginfo after you
mentioned it. There are some cases of "fairgrounds" being used with
amenity, landuse and leisure, but as I said before, the events value, as a
generic use of land for festivities, encompasses it, as fairgrounds seems
to be specific for fairs (according to a quick search I've done in the
internet). Anyway, there should be a padronization for these kind of places.

John, I haven't found much info on landuse=civic, so could you please
describe it a bit more? Event areas are well delimited and may or may not
have buildings inside it (there is a circus-specific area in my city that
is only a grassland where circus tents and attractions are mounted
http://binged.it/19kxgU2), but these buildings are used specifically during
the events. Buildings and other facilities inside it, as amenities or
leisures, may have as well their proper names and values, but the
designated area they may be in has mainly the purpose of receiving people
for local shows and has a name of its own.

On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:41 PM, jonathan <jonathan at bigfatfrog67.me> wrote:

>  I definitely think there is a need for this, I can think of many places
> around the UK this could apply to.
>
> landuse=events is better than leisure=*
>
> Jonathan
>
> http://bigfatfrog67.me
>
> On 09/03/2014 21:31, Tod Fitch wrote:
>
> It seems to me that landuse=events is reasonable. Most of the places
> called fairgrounds where I am are used for other events other than the
> traditional once a year fair. There are often swap meets, animal shows,
> concerts, and other events held during the year. And the area often (always
> in my experience but I've not seen many) have amenities on the grounds like
> toilets, food concessions, etc.
>
>  Using event_space or event_place seems odd to me: And area already
> denotes a space or place. We don't say residential_place or
> industrial_place in our tags, so my preference would be for landuse=events.
>
> -Tod
>
>
>
>  On Mar 9, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Antônio Marcos wrote:
>
>  I've never heard of "fairground", but it seems to be a quite specific
> tag that could be substituted by or even inside the events area. The events
> tag is indeed supposed to be generic, just like landuse=retail, which
> demarks areas used by shops, and the leisure or landuse key before the
> "events" value should denote that it is an area where events are carried on
> (like the ones you cited, circus, shows etc.). Maybe, if the area hosts a
> single type of event, it is considerable to create too an event_type= key
> that describes the type of event. I am considering changing back the key
> leisure to landuse, as it originally was supposed to be, because it is a
> land used for this purpose and may contain facilities (amenities and
> leisures) used during the events, such as pitches, toilets, bars and so on.
> An example of an area like this is a very famous rodeo place here in Brazil
> called Parque do Peão: http://binged.it/1h4EgcT. As you can see, there is
> an entire area used for it, where fairs are made and several amenities for
> the public are found: the rodeo event is not comprised only of the rodeo
> show made in the arena. And there are many other event-designated places in
> the world, I believe, thus I think OpenStreetMap is really lacking this
> kind of tagging. Back to the leisure/landuse discussion, stated some points
> above I think landuse fits better than leisure and I'd like some more
> opinions on this matter, please, before changing it back to landuse=events.
> If there needs any other improvement on this tag, please comment. Thanks.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <
> dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> 2014-03-09 17:18 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos <toni.oliv at gmail.com>:
>>
>>  I have created this proposal some time ago for a new tag called
>>> leisure=events (originally landuse=events), which should describe areas
>>> reserved for events in a city or in a place (more info at the proposal page
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/leisure%3Devents). Does
>>> anybody have more opinions and suggestions on this, please?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I think "event" is not a good description for a place where events take
>> place, something like event_space / event_place would already be better,
>> but still seems very generic. What kind of events do you have in mind, folk
>> festivals? parish fairs? trade fairs? concerts? beer festivals? just to
>> name a few.
>>
>>  For these maybe "fairground" would be a good tag (not sure for leisure
>> as a key, maybe use a neutral "amenity"?)
>>
>>  cheers,
>> Martin
>>
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