[Tagging] surface=ground/dirt/earth

fly lowflight66 at googlemail.com
Thu Mar 13 14:56:13 UTC 2014

On 13.03.2014 15:37, Fernando Trebien wrote:
> But do you think that earth and ground are different kinds of surface?

Well, I would consider earth as earth where ground could be earth but
does not have to be.

All together, I think we could get rid of at least one out of the three
tags after updating the descriptions but this will not that easy with
existing tags in common use.


> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:16 AM, fly <lowflight66 at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On 13.03.2014 10:34, jonathan wrote:
>>> Here's my take from an Englishman!
>>> While the term dirt road is used here, it is much rarer as all public
>>> (adopted) roads in the UK are paved in some way shape or form.  Most
>>> dirt roads are probably private roads, farm tracks or paths.
>>> Now, back to the original question.  I totally agree with Fernando,
>>> these classifications are confusing. In English English they pretty well
>>> mean the same thing. We should look to rationalise them.
>> How do you tag hiking paths which do not lead across grass or solid rock ?
>> I use ground in these cases and if the surfaces changes every few metres
>> between natural underground (from tree needles to rocks)
>>> However, remember the surface tag is used elsewhere other than
>>> roads/tracks where there may be some distinction, although I can't
>>> imagine what the distinction may be.
>> Exactly, how about unpaved sports` pitch and tracks (clay or dirt ?).
>>> In general English usage there meanings rely on context but in this
>>> context of describing a base surface to something I would go with dirt
>>> to mean a loose surface, unpaved, water permeable, degradable surface.
>>> Ground and earth are just too vague to be of any use.
>> That is one major problem of vague descriptions and of overlapping meanings.
>> I would always use unpaved.
>> I consider dirt as a mixture of earth, mud and little rocks or thin
>> gravel where I am not able to distinguish between earth or mud and where
>> it is not ground as it differs from the surrounding underground.
>> My 2 ct from a non-native speaker.
>> fly
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