[Tagging] opening-hours and closing-hours

fly lowflight66 at googlemail.com
Fri Mar 14 14:45:56 UTC 2014


Did you every think about "00:00-24:00; Fr 14:00-22:00 off"

I really do not get your problems as the syntax already allows a lot.
Still do not have any need for "open/closed" or closing_hours.

One good point about the discussion is that "appointment" is considered
valid.

cu fly




On 14.03.2014 12:37, André Pirard wrote:
> On 2014-03-13 19:06, Pieren wrote :
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Robin `ypid` Schneider <ypid23 at aol.de> wrote:
>>
>> It's unclear if your proposal is "opening_hours=SH(summer holiday)" or
>> "opening_hours=SH" (then you should correct the wiki because the tag
>> template is using the first version)
>>
>> I guess you plan to update the main "opening_hours" wiki if the
>> proposal is accepted ?
> As well as
> 
>   * choose one of the 5 or 6 contradictory forms, each denying the
>     former ones, that were answered to my case that I finally proposed
>     unambiguously as  *closing-hours=Fr 14:00-22:00* (in a message
>     followed by -1 -1 -1 and 2 or 3 more contradictory tags)
>   * if the answer to the simplified diagram I added to try to clarify
>     many things is really "it's wrong", say what is wrong and correct it
>   * especially, regarding *your* particular proposition 
>     *opening_hours="open; Fr 14:00-22:00 off"*
>       o explain:  "open" and "closed" appear to be some new invention
>         [*of mine, *in the diagram]
>       o write a definition for *off* or validate/correct the definition
>         in my diagram and explain the following replies to this request
>         or its usage: 
>           + it's not used;
>           + it's used but not like that;
>           + *off* must not be defined but grasped; 
>           + the meaning of "off" is wrong
>           + "off" [must not be defined because it] has been in use for
>             quite some time already.
>           + http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Time_domains
>             explains quite well how the overall opening_hours syntax
>             works (why then did I have to add its URL to the main page?)
>       o write a definition or *open*, make up your mind between, and
>         clarify:
>           + "open" and "closed" appear to be some new invention
>           + It was introduced by Netzwolf some years ago because it is
>             needed as <rule_modifier> (when used together with a
>             comment). It is now used over 150 times to do exactly that
>             (regex: /open\s+"/). Of course it is an invention but one
>             which is required
>           + make explanations for the general tagger (I'm fine with
>             regexp but not everybody)
>       o clarify: "Because of the definition that following rules will
>         overwrite previous once, times which span over midnight have to
>         use additional rules which are separated by comma instead of
>         semicolon. "
>           + probably "override previous ones" and general syntax
>           + instead of a casual remark about an example, make it a
>             proper explanation
>               # of the difference between comma and semicolon
>               # of how rules override one another;  "graspingly", ranges
>                 specifying opening time would add themselves to opening
>                 time and ranges specifying closing time would subtract
>                 themselves from it, but I've seen an example for which
>                 the range was said to both add and subtract.
> 
> BTW, if the only reaction to *closing-hours=Fr 14:00-22:00* is -1 -1 -1
>   vs   all of the above (and more) for the *opening-hours= ?_0 |?_1 |?_2
> |?_3 |?_4 |?_5 *... attempted equivalents, then my *closing-hours
> *proposition is obviously not a question of opinion or liking but an
> absolute necessity.
> 
> Hoping this will help,
> Cheers,
> 
> André.
> 
> 
> 
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