[Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

François Lacombe francois.lacombe at telecom-bretagne.eu
Sat Nov 1 22:05:18 UTC 2014


Hi,

I've already edited Rational paragraph to give a better description with
distinction between buildings where workers can enter.

Secondly, ok for street_cabinet=waste (and maybe
street_cabinet=waste_management if cabinets are encountered with devices to
manage waste transit or storage)

man_made=street_cabinet isn't incompatible with amenity=waste_* and
street_cabinet=waste should concern anything regarding waste.

I'm not so friendly with proposal editing while voting.
Nevertheless, with such extensive keys like street_cabinet=* I think users
won't mind if we document additional values.
Is everybody ok with it ?

*François Lacombe*

francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu
http://www.infos-reseaux.com

2014-11-01 11:04 GMT+01:00 johnw <johnw at mac.com>:

> Well, they re not open to the public - only the designated houses in the
> area can use their station, not anyone else. You don’t use other people’s
> stations. There is one closer to my house, but I’m not allowed to use it,
> because the one pictred is “ours”. it is regualrly maintained, on rotation,
> by the users of it.
>
> These are not public garbage cans, they are a drop-off point between
> specific customers and the garbage pickup.
>
> They are not completely private, like a mail transfer box, but they are
> not public either.
>
> Javbw
>
> > On Oct 31, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Tom Pfeifer <t.pfeifer at computer.org> wrote:
> >
> > I would distinguish between an amenity=waste_* for structures
> > that are open for everybody to bring their waste, with or without fee,
> > thus as a POI somebody would navigate to (where can I bring my waste),
> > and the cabinet=waste merely describing the street inventory
> > (what is that odd locked box for).
> >
> > johnw wrote on 2014-10-31 07:00:
> >> I was going to suggest "Waste Transfer station"
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dwaste_transfer_station
> >> But after reading the wiki for it, it was not at all what I expected.
> >>
> >> In America, at least in most suburban areas, waste is collected from
> individual residences via bins/cans on the street with(enormous) trucks, so
> there is no static transfer points whatsoever, it goes from curb to
> landfill directly.
> >>
> >> In Japan, There are static waste collection "Garbage stations" [ゴミ
> ステーション] per street or area, and are often large, steel, screened cages that
> are stuffed full of 45 liter bags. There is no possible way fro a truck to
> service the myriad of little tiny buildings, some of them only on walking
> paths - even in cities of 100K people, so there is a garbage station for
> every 20-30 houses or so, or one for a large apartment or company.
> Temporary ones are merely nets to keep the crows off the bags, but most are
> permanent ones worth mapping.
> >>
> >> My local garbage station (2 cabinets)  http://goo.gl/maps/VLgMP
> >> a full one nearby http://goo.gl/maps/eqVS3
> >>
> >>
> >> although some are old and look disused, they are used daily or weekly
> by the populace, and mapping them would be useful on a very local level
> (like the cabinets in general).
> >>
> >> Please add a line item for waste transfer, similar to the postal
> transfer - this is a missing step in the garbage collection, and a cabinet
> that have been overlooked.
> >> Also, I suggest also adding "sliding" for the door hinge option (as the
> second one has no hinges)
> >>
> >> Javbw
> >>
> >> On Oct 31, 2014, at 6:08 AM, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
> >>
> >>> François Lacombe wrote on 2014-10-30 21:42:
> >>>> I would suggest street_cabinet=garbage for the equipment you've
> mentioned.
> >>>
> >>> maybe =waste is more consistent with existing tags such as
> >>> amenity=waste disposal, amenity=waste basket or
> >>> generator:source=waste
> >>>
> >>> Garbage is less used in tags so far.
> >>>
> >>>> A cabinet is a feature where workers can't enter.
> >>>> A building is the opposite.
> >>>> Then, substations and other stuff can be divided between those two
> sorts.
> >>>
> >>> That's a very plausible distinction and should be documented.
> >>>
> >>> tom
> >
> >
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