[Tagging] governmental / public_administrative landuse are not commercial

johnw johnw at mac.com
Tue Nov 4 02:56:53 UTC 2014


Assembling a draft page. it is my first "draft page", so my syntax is kinda crap.  I will be working on the details of the proposal later today. 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dcivic


Javbw

On Nov 4, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Tom Pfeifer <t.pfeifer at computer.org> wrote:

> ok, now we have landuse={governmental|public_administrative|civic|civil|public}
> 
> For my taste, public implies much more openness than we have from some
> ministries, immigration offices etc, but is certainly a value to consider.
> 
> I would like to put a RFC page together towards the end of the week,
> so it would be nice it the other contributors to this discussion would
> indicate under which title we should start it.
> 
> tom
> 
> johnw wrote on 2014-11-04 00:40:
> > and the line between public and private is not one OSM singles out very much (is is a public school vs a private school?), but things are separated by function. and the functions are of a civic government (pnsion offices, taxes, judicial, etc). I would use
> > the word "public" or “government” but civil (opoopsite of military or company use) is a good fit, and civic is basically “for civil”, so it works well enough - and matches a pre-existing approved building subtag.
> >
> > Javbw
> 
> 
> Clifford Snow wrote on 2014-11-04 00:30:
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:02 PM, johnw <johnw at mac.com <mailto:johnw at mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Civic is what I suggested a few months ago. but where the line is drawn is up for debate: what is included in this catch-all, and what isn’t.
>> 
>>    I’ve tried arguing that each class should have their own catch-all landuse - eg: we have residential/ retail/ industrial/ commericial - and hundreds of different tags to properly define the the buildings that would fall into these 4 land uses.
>> 
>>    I believe there is a good case for landuse=civic (name matches building=civic) to cover the basic landuse of a myriad of public/civic/institutional/state services that could be tagged with more specific amenity tags, or a new civic=• subtag - either
>>    through point markers, building labels, or on the area with the landuse.
>> 
>>    Let the landuse denote class, and the other tags take care of the detail. just like with residential / commercial / retail / industrial.
>> 
>>    if you want to slice out a service  (eg, school, hospital, airport), that’s fine - but I think there is enough leftover to warrant another broad landuse class.
>> 
>> 
>> I just noticed that my local government uses "public" for these types of landuse. That seems like a appropriate land use for most of the usages described. Civic refers to the duties of people associated with their governments. Public refers to being "open"
>> as in the lands and buildings.
>> 
>> Clifford
>> 
>> 
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