[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - relation, type=person

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Wed Oct 15 10:57:55 UTC 2014

On 15/10/2014 8:27 PM, tagging-request at openstreetmap.org wrote:
> Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:54:09 +0200 From: moltonel 3x 
> Combo <moltonel at gmail.com> To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related 
> tools" <tagging at openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature 
> Proposal - Voting - relation type=person Message-ID: 
> <CANQow5JxL2U_Hc0c5299Fikmy46jgdjcpQ3PcY2097vC=ZC_+w at mail.gmail.com> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 14/10/2014, Pieren 
> <pieren3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Third mistake : It is not strictly reserved for "notable" people and
>> can be used to name all graves in a cemetery (which might be forbiden
>> in some countries). Privacy is never mentionned. To solve this, you
>> could enforce a link to wikipedia because they are already an
>> "encyclopedia" and check people notability
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28people%29). And
>> once you create a link to wikipedia (or wikidata), you don't need the
>> relation anymore-
> I'm wondering about this argument. How does maping information that
> publicly available (names on tombstones) constitute a privacy breach ?
> In many (most ?) countries, the birth and death registers are publicly
> available in the local public office. Genealogists trade data files on
> the internet as if they were TV series. If there's a law in some
> country preventing that kind of information-gathering, I feel it's
> standing on pretty thin ground.

Genealogists will not (or should that be 'should not'?) trade data on living people .. unless the receiver is related. Most countries have restrictions on birth, death and marriage records, usually time related ... e.g. births over 100 years ago publicly avalible, otherwise for relatives only. This is in order to stop identy fraud. People looking for living relatives aproaching genealogists will usually be refered elsewhere .. e.g. Salvation Army, they will aproach the living relative/s and see if they are intreasted.

Most grave sights have a registar .. that tells you where a particular person is burried.
Some have it on the web, you put in a persons name and the location is given .. possibly with a map.
There are web sites that alow searches for a particular person .. sometimes even just a surname, '/BillionGraves/','Find A Grave'  for example.
They would be my first port of call if looking for someones' grave, not OSM.
I've no objection to the data going into OSM, but is it worthwhile when the above sites have the data in a searchable form?

I've been tracing my faimly tree .. that is how I know this stuff first hand... over 1,000 people and dates back to 1650 ... so far. Not many 'living' on it!

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