[Tagging] Vandalis on access page
lowflight66 at googlemail.com
Tue Oct 21 16:52:21 UTC 2014
It is frustrating and I only rarely change the wiki.
I always try to be polite and get into contact but only once. If there
is no real reaction and only more pages are changed or directly changed
after the revert, I would revert them all immediately as it is a problem
if wrong/undiscussed changes are spread.
Am 21.10.2014 18:36, schrieb Pee Wee:
> Well... here's my experience with user Ulamm. He sure has taken away
> part of the fun it was contributing to this project.
> I've noticed he made some changes to the use_sidepath
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath> wiki. I
> asked him in a private mail for the reason of the changes since they did
> not make sense to me nor was I aware of some proposal or a discussion on
> the tagging mailinglist. His changes were reverted by Mateusz but Ulamm
> changed the wiki almost instantly. Ulamm could not (and still can not)
> give me any reference to a discussion or whatever that would justify the
> changes he made. In the private mail it was very clear to me that Ulamm
> wanted to discuss with me why his change was good for OSM. I instead
> wanted to make clear to him that he should get consensus first and after
> that change the wiki.
> For this reason I decided to continue on the TALK page instead of
> private mail. You can read that in Talk
> from "bicycle=yes everywhere"
> Apart from that fact that there is no consensus on the change he made I
> also pointed him to the wiki page on "tag for routing/Access
> with which his change conflicts. He now states that it does not
> conflict because those the road types under discussion are excluded from
> this wiki. That was new to me so I was surprised. I found out that this
> wiki was also changed by Ulamm by adding a paragraph by the name of
> "Special feature: Roadside cycletracks". So Ulamm seems to change one
> wiki and justifies with another wiki he has just changed.
> My impression is that he does not want to reach consensus but just
> changes wiki pages to his liking. IMHO this is a very bad development
> undermining the wiki pages and the way we should should reach agreement
> in OSM.
> I am wondering what your opinion is on this.
> Cheers PeeWee32
> PS :
> History on use_sidepath wiki
> History Access page
> 2014-10-04 20:04 GMT+02:00 715371 <osmu715371 at gmx.de
> <mailto:osmu715371 at gmx.de>>:
> I want to mention that user ulamm is not just doing vandalism on the
> osm-db, but also on the wiki.
> He is changing the information for Germany, where this is not true so
> far as I know.
> Now he is claiming this in discussions.
> Related to sidewalk-tagging he is doing the same: modify and than claim
> his proposal was right.
> You can also find suspicious modifications on , , ,  and
> Please bann him.
>  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:highway%3Dcycleway
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