[Tagging] (Soapy) Massage Parlour

Mishari Muqbil mishari at mishari.net
Mon Sep 22 04:05:00 UTC 2014


Hi,

To avoid having the word "massage" throwing off the discussion, I'll
refer to it under it's legal name of "entertainment place".

I'll go ahead with the restrictions then, but the other issue is the
specific legal classification that entertainment places fall under[1] as
opposed to a regular, much smaller place which offer massages and have
the same restrictions posted on the door.

You need a specific license to operate a "entertainment place" which
makes it subject to zoning, taxes and other laws and an establishment
that operates under this legal definition and license should be tagged
accordingly.

[1]
http://www.lawreform.go.th/lawreform/eng/index.php?option=com_homelawreformen&task=showtoc&lid=705&gid=6&eword=P&ename=Acts%20of%20Parliament&elawname=Public%20Entertainment%20Place%20Act,%20B.E.%202509%20%281966%29

On 9/21/14 22:07, Dan S wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Well, that suggestion specifies access limits (i.e. only males age 21
> or more), and if those are true facts and they're what you want to
> indicate, then go ahead. The access limits don't really tell you if
> something is soapy or not, but if you decide you only want to "imply"
> that and not to state it explicitly, your approach sounds OK to me.
> 
> However, there's NO reason to use amenity=massage_parlour when
> shop=massage already exists. Please use it. You said you want to avoid
> confusion between soapy and family-friendly, and your age-restriction
> works for that, no need to create a duplicate tag.
> 
> Best
> Dan
> 
> 
> 2014-09-21 14:52 GMT+01:00 Mishari Muqbil <mishari at mishari.net>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I saw that, but I'm not convinced it's the right approach as what I'm
>> referring require a specific massage parlor license to operate as
>> opposed to a regular traditional massage establishment which is more
>> suited for shop=massage. I think it would be akin to saying a
>> convenience store and supermarket can all be tagged the same way. Also,
>> I'm not comfortable with using sexual as it could be libelous to state
>> that something illegal is taking place in these establishments (for
>> example, you won't do shop=convenience+marijuana=yes in most parts of
>> the world).
>>
>> How about something like a combination of:
>> amenity=massage_parlour
>> male=yes
>> female=no
>> min_age=21
>>
>> This should be quite accurate.
>>
>> On 21/9/14 16:04, Dan S wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> It looks like there's this tag, including a tag suggested for your
>>> specific issue:
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmassage
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> 2014-09-21 4:23 GMT+01:00 Mishari Muqbil <mishari at mishari.net>:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thailand has these places called "entertainment complexes"[1]  that
>>>> offers bathing + massage services and quite often the expectation is
>>>> that there will be sexual services offered. However, I don't want to tag
>>>> them as brothels as prostitution on the premises is legally not allowed[2].
>>>>
>>>> I propose to tag this as leisure=massage_parlour since that's what the
>>>> Thai English dictionary calls them[3] but I don't want it to be mistaken
>>>> for more family friendly establishments in other parts of the world.
>>>> Colloquially these places are called soapy massage so perhaps
>>>> leisure=soapy_massage? :)
>>>>
>>>> One reason why they should be mapped is just how prominent they are as
>>>> landmarks in general. For example, here's one called Utopia
>>>> http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/z1A8OOUw01E5Jc84Mff-1Q this one's La
>>>> Defense http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/ho84IFdUxupke-6pwrWW3g and
>>>> Colonze http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/469ttdMVw4_1o3vkuvE_xw
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand#Ab_Ob_Nuat
>>>> [2]
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand#The_Entertainment_Places_Act
>>>> [3]
>>>> http://th.w3dictionary.org/index.php?q=%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%96%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%94
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Mishari Muqbil
>>>> EE32 64BD 7D1F 5946
>>>>
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