[Tagging] (Soapy) Massage Parlour

Mon Sep 22 04:39:22 UTC 2014

The name tag can be whatever it is, but making a amenity=soapland might be what you are looking for.  That way there is no confusion with massage places and clearly understood to be for adult services. 

Javbw.   

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> On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Mishari Muqbil <mishari at mishari.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> To avoid having the word "massage" throwing off the discussion, I'll
> refer to it under it's legal name of "entertainment place".
> 
> I'll go ahead with the restrictions then, but the other issue is the
> specific legal classification that entertainment places fall under[1] as
> opposed to a regular, much smaller place which offer massages and have
> the same restrictions posted on the door.
> 
> You need a specific license to operate a "entertainment place" which
> makes it subject to zoning, taxes and other laws and an establishment
> that operates under this legal definition and license should be tagged
> accordingly.
> 
> [1]
> http://www.lawreform.go.th/lawreform/eng/index.php?option=com_homelawreformen&task=showtoc&lid=705&gid=6&eword=P&ename=Acts%20of%20Parliament&elawname=Public%20Entertainment%20Place%20Act,%20B.E.%202509%20%281966%29
> 
>> On 9/21/14 22:07, Dan S wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Well, that suggestion specifies access limits (i.e. only males age 21
>> or more), and if those are true facts and they're what you want to
>> indicate, then go ahead. The access limits don't really tell you if
>> something is soapy or not, but if you decide you only want to "imply"
>> that and not to state it explicitly, your approach sounds OK to me.
>> 
>> However, there's NO reason to use amenity=massage_parlour when
>> shop=massage already exists. Please use it. You said you want to avoid
>> confusion between soapy and family-friendly, and your age-restriction
>> works for that, no need to create a duplicate tag.
>> 
>> Best
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 2014-09-21 14:52 GMT+01:00 Mishari Muqbil <mishari at mishari.net>:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I saw that, but I'm not convinced it's the right approach as what I'm
>>> referring require a specific massage parlor license to operate as
>>> opposed to a regular traditional massage establishment which is more
>>> suited for shop=massage. I think it would be akin to saying a
>>> convenience store and supermarket can all be tagged the same way. Also,
>>> I'm not comfortable with using sexual as it could be libelous to state
>>> that something illegal is taking place in these establishments (for
>>> example, you won't do shop=convenience+marijuana=yes in most parts of
>>> the world).
>>> 
>>> How about something like a combination of:
>>> amenity=massage_parlour
>>> male=yes
>>> female=no
>>> min_age=21
>>> 
>>> This should be quite accurate.
>>> 
>>>> On 21/9/14 16:04, Dan S wrote:
>>>> Hi -
>>>> 
>>>> It looks like there's this tag, including a tag suggested for your
>>>> specific issue:
>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmassage
>>>> 
>>>> Best
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
>>>> 2014-09-21 4:23 GMT+01:00 Mishari Muqbil <mishari at mishari.net>:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thailand has these places called "entertainment complexes"[1]  that
>>>>> offers bathing + massage services and quite often the expectation is
>>>>> that there will be sexual services offered. However, I don't want to tag
>>>>> them as brothels as prostitution on the premises is legally not allowed[2].
>>>>> 
>>>>> I propose to tag this as leisure=massage_parlour since that's what the
>>>>> Thai English dictionary calls them[3] but I don't want it to be mistaken
>>>>> for more family friendly establishments in other parts of the world.
>>>>> Colloquially these places are called soapy massage so perhaps
>>>>> leisure=soapy_massage? :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> One reason why they should be mapped is just how prominent they are as
>>>>> landmarks in general. For example, here's one called Utopia
>>>>> http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/z1A8OOUw01E5Jc84Mff-1Q this one's La
>>>>> Defense http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/ho84IFdUxupke-6pwrWW3g and
>>>>> Colonze http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/469ttdMVw4_1o3vkuvE_xw
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand#Ab_Ob_Nuat
>>>>> [2]
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand#The_Entertainment_Places_Act
>>>>> [3]
>>>>> http://th.w3dictionary.org/index.php?q=%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%96%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%94
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Mishari Muqbil
>>>>> EE32 64BD 7D1F 5946
>>>>> 
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