[Tagging] Telecoms Tagging

Tim Waters chippy2005 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 2 21:10:01 UTC 2015


Many thanks!

On 22 July 2015 at 23:12, Fran├žois Lacombe <fl.infosreseaux at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> Can you take care of this proposal please ?
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Telecom_local_loop
> It intends to setup a model for telecoms local loops using telecoms=* and
> man_made=street_cabinet
>
> You can also use street_cabinet=telecoms a lot to map connection points and
> mobile base stations.

Is the idea to have a network map of an enclosed local loop? Is a loop
a mappable thing in its own right and if so do you think that a local
loop be represented as a relation perhaps?

>
> Finally, and regarding mobile telecom networks, there is this chart which
> try to illustrate components and relations to be made on a mobile station
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Radio_antennas_mapping_proposal.png

That's a lovely detailed explanation, thanks.

For street cabinets. Heat and sound. Are these side effects of the
street cabinet?
I pass one which sometimes in the warm weather you can hear a fan
running, but in the winter I have not noticed any visible melting of
ice around it, could it just be dependent on weather, or is it a
permanent feature, I wonder?

Would it be primarily heat found via touch so that blind people may be
able to identify it better?

>
> I'll be glad to help you a bit one of those days.
>
> All the best
>
> Fran├žois
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm working on a project to map telecommunication features with the
> aim to better understand what "The Internet" means geographically and
> physically.
>
> I have started collating a number of the various telecoms features to
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Telecoms
>
> The categories of these features on that wiki page are:
>
> Cables
> Street Furniture
> Antennas / Masts / Towers
> Telephone Exchanges
> Internet / Telecoms Buildings
> Other
>
> And within the categories include well known and mapped features such
> as street cabinets (I've enjoyed the previous detailed discussion of
> this feature in particular!), submarine cables and data centres. There
> should be links to the main wiki pages discussing these tags there.
>
> It appears that the tagging of various telecom features has a fair few
> different tags in use. e.g. telecom=* and *=telecommunication and
> communication= and *=telecoms, telecommunications, telephone etc.
>
> I was reasonably surprised that, compared with other categories of
> features there hasn't been much discussion about these features as a
> whole and I think that could be a good thing!
>
> It's positive that some of these features have not been mapped as much
> as they occur outside as that give us some flexibility to look at how
> they should be tagged, and guide future mappers on how they might be
> better mapped... or am I being too optimistic? :-)
>
> I've populated the wikipage with taginfo counts of the various usages
> including some of the rarest ones that I have found. It doesn't really
> give that much useful information just yet...what should we add to
> make it better?
>
> Please feel free to dive in and edit and rearrange the wikiproject
> page, I'm certainly not a wiki expert.
>
> Are there more features we should add to this Wiki Project page?
>
> Should I add to the page the most common way they have been tagged,
> or, if discussion here is fruitful, the "best" way, or have
> recommendations for some common standard tags?
>
> Should we seek to standardise tags across the most common telecoms features?
>
> I was looking at the Power project and discussions, should discussion
> of features occur within a telecoms frame of reference, or does it
> basically depend on the number and types of users mapping them?
>
> Once the features are adequately documented, I seek to produce a JOSM
> and iD preset file for these features and will be producing
> transparent tilesets and data exports showing them within a dedicated
> website. I'll let you know once these two things have happened!
>
> thanks,
>
> Tim
> (chippy)
>
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