[Tagging] Mapping overlapping Pedestrian areas?

Dave F. davefox at madasafish.com
Tue Aug 11 15:49:38 UTC 2015


I presume the upper levels have a protective barrier such as a wall. 
Would that help?

I've mapped a bridge as pedestrian area (closed way + area=yes) 
Unfortunately some entities below render through. Try it out - see if it 

Dave F.

On 11/08/2015 11:41, johnw wrote:
> Places where Pedestrian areas overlap are very difficult for me to map 
> and also render very badly.
> I was wondering if someone has some suggestions on how to map this area
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/35.77740/140.31301
> This is Narita Station West Exit, with a big loop road, with a 
> pedestrian area around it (layer 1) , adjacent to a 2 story bicycle 
> parking structure.
> On top of the structure is a large pedestrian area that overlaps the 
> lower one, as well as the street. (layer 2)
> and up another flight of stairs to the northeast from the 2nd 
> pedestrian level is the actual station (it is all built against a hill)
> between the overlapping ped areas that don’t like to render well, or 
> render as bridges, and with footpath access tunnels through he bike 
> structure for the stairs and elevator, and the lack of a “parking 
> structure” entrance/exit for bike structures, and the lack of a 
> multi-storey subkey for bike parking (only present in presets for car 
> parking - almost every big station has a multi-storey bike parking 
> structure under elevated tracks - even my school has a free-standing 
> two story bike parking structure) makes everything about this place 
> confusing for tagging - beyond what nodes for building edges get 
> shared and not shared, which I’m still struggling with.
> I mapped the overlappign part of the ped area as a way with bridge=yes 
> so it overlaps somewhat corectly, but it doesn’t match the actual area.
> Mapion maps it quite well, but they don’t bother to map the ped areas 
> on the ground whatsoever. the color shift is to represent different 
> address blocks.
> http://sasp.mapion.co.jp/cm/jreast/?icon=jreast| 
> <http://sasp.mapion.co.jp/cm/jreast/?icon=jreast%7C140.19.0.0,> 
> any advice for:
> - dealing with the overlapping ped area that doesn’t play well with others
> - dealing with shared nodes between the layers when they share a 
> common wall, but not common height
> - dealing with bicycle parking as a multi-storey structure with 
> entrances similar to a car parking garage (but absolutely not for 
> cars). Are the car subtag values also valid?
> This parking structure entrance (north)
> https://www.google.com/maps/@35.778165,140.313204,3a,45.3y,107.88h,84.89t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sOix-kpodU98lgaWkG1oVwA!2e0 
> <https://www.google.com/maps/@35.778165,140.313204,3a,45.3y,107.88h,84.89t/data=%213m4%211e1%213m2%211sOix-kpodU98lgaWkG1oVwA%212e0>
> my local train station bicycle parking
> https://www.google.com/maps/@36.410713,139.333553,3a,55.4y,72.49h,88.9t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sm56cVOh3YzHbFcjB_TE_0A!2e0 
> <https://www.google.com/maps/@36.410713,139.333553,3a,55.4y,72.49h,88.9t/data=%213m4%211e1%213m2%211sm56cVOh3YzHbFcjB_TE_0A%212e0>
> My school’s free-standing multi-storey bicycle parking structure
> https://www.google.com/maps/@36.408608,139.335244,3a,55.4y,248.58h,96.34t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1st4sFdtD9bSw2N0OY9PCt6A!2e0 
> <https://www.google.com/maps/@36.408608,139.335244,3a,55.4y,248.58h,96.34t/data=%213m4%211e1%213m2%211st4sFdtD9bSw2N0OY9PCt6A%212e0> 
> Thanks for your help in advance.
> Javbw
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