[Tagging] Cycle route relations, networks and refs
Kurt Waldhans
kurt at waldhans.com
Sun Aug 16 17:18:23 UTC 2015
The definition of the cycle network you to complain about can be found
in http://www.radverkehrsnetz.nrw.de/RVN_home01.html.
<http://www.radverkehrsnetz.nrw.de/RVN_home01.html>
You can't break it into routes, it is a network. And ref=NRW is not so
bad, the complete name would be ref="Radverkehrsnetz NRW". If you think
that is better ...
The new, junction-node based system is based on routes, for an example
you may check http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4257206
best regards, Kurt
On 16-Aug-15 12:21, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> I've encountered two fairly widespread issues with bike route tagging
> and would appreciate help sorting them out.
>
> In parts of Germany and elsewhere, networks of local/regional cycle
> routes are grouped into regions. The Nordrhein-Westfalen network is a
> good example.
>
> The master relation
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/33216#map=10/50.5815/6.7992&layers=C
>
> is tagged with type=network, which is perhaps appropriate (insert
> usual 'Relations are not categories' citation here).
>
> However, its child relations are tagged with type=route:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/222572
> which is not appropriate. As the osm.org geometry shows, this isn't a
> route, it's a collection or network of routes.
>
> A second issue is the misuse of the ref= tag in these relations. The
> ref= tag is intended for a number that appears on a sign or other
> on-the-ground evidence. It is not "some arbitrary bunch of letters I
> made up to get it to render". However, it's being used as the latter
> in this (ref=NRW) and many similar cases.
>
> The most "correct" way forward would seem to be:
>
> - break the child relations up into individual routes
> - group these together within a parent type=network relation
> - remove the ref tags
>
> The first step would, of course, be Hard Work.
>
> Thoughts and suggestions welcome.
>
> cheers
> Richard
>
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