[Tagging] Shop vs amenity

John Willis johnw at mac.com
Thu Aug 27 22:20:50 UTC 2015

The Montgomery ward's department store in my old hometown was turned into a Walmart (2 stories) but most department stores in California are 1-2 floors (with most targets and walmarts being 1 story).  Most supermarkets are one. Size is the only difference in their construction, and often near each other, built by the same construction companies, paid by the same landowners. 

I can totally see that in some countries (and especially for certain brands) there would be easily defined building types, but All of them are retail buildings. They should at least be called retail buildings. To many people, the brand logo out front and the color choice of the paint will signal that it is a market or a dept store far beyond it's architecture, in most cases. 

 The difference between a large drug store, a supermarket, a department store, and a DIY store in rural Japan is almost non-existent (Besia, Besia fashion, Sekichu, Kawachi stores). Interestingly, most electronics shops are "on stilts" - first floor is parking, second floor is is the main floor. In Tokyo, everything is crammed into the bottom floors of multi-story buildings, with the supermarkets in the basements of large buildings or malls - there are very few dedicated buildings to a single store if it is large - especially supermarkets. They end up being leaseholders in the basement of a large residential or business office building, or in the basement of large department stores or malls. The rest of the city is a sea of mixed use little tiny house sized buildings (shop on the bottom, house up top) for which, AFAIK, we still do not have a proper mixed-use tag (urban nor rural) 


> On Aug 28, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Am 26.08.2015 um 02:09 schrieb Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com>:
>> The difference between a building used as a supermarket compared to a department store is the internal fitout, the building remains the same.
> not at all, this might be the case in some areas (that I am not aware of) and edge cases, but the typical supermarket is 1 storey, in huge cases 2 (and then one level is typically electronics, or gardening and other non-food articles and tends towards a department store by the selection of products) and doesn't have a representative / expensive outside facade, while department stores tend to have at least 3 floors, typically 4 and more, and do have to have a representative outside, so no, these are not the same kind of buildings.
> Do you have any real example of a supermarket becoming a department store or vice versa?
> cheers 
> Martin 
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