[Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

Richard ricoz.osm at gmail.com
Sat Aug 29 13:39:45 UTC 2015


On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 07:05:52PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:52:17 +0200
> Anders Fougner <anders.fougner at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Den 28.08.15 16.56, skrev Mateusz Konieczny:
> > > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:15:56 +0200
> > > Anders Fougner <anders.fougner at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> So we should consider replacing the tagging scheme with one which
> > >> isn't misunderstood so easily.
> > >> The use of access:foot=*, access:bicycle=* has been proposed at
> > >> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/access_restrictions_1.5#Namespace>
> > >> but just not taken into use. It looks good, though...and wouldn't
> > >> be so easily misunderstood, I believe.
> > > Why it would not be "so easily misunderstood"?
> > Well, I think it could be just because people intuitively think that 
> > highway=path, bicycle=no means it's a trail not _suitable_ or 
> > comfortable with a bike. The word access is simply not there, and
> > then they don't even think about that as a possibility. And, people
> > not into mountain biking might believe that trails are not usable or
> > accessible with bikes unless they are paved or otherwise designed for
> > biking.
> 
> Adding access: will not improve anything as it is still not indicating
> that it is about legal access. legal_access:bicycle=* would at least
> give chance that it will be more easily understood (not that it would
> be a good idea).
> 

that would be one idea. Or accept the fact that people mess it up and subclass 
access into 
* access:legal,
* access:suitable

Just wondered - when did anyone here last see a wheelchair=no road sign? Is any 
of these 214658 tags correct?
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/?key=wheelchair&value=no

Richard




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