[Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at gmail.com
Sat Aug 29 13:51:52 UTC 2015


On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:39:45 +0200
Richard <ricoz.osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 07:05:52PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:52:17 +0200
> > Anders Fougner <anders.fougner at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Den 28.08.15 16.56, skrev Mateusz Konieczny:
> > > > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:15:56 +0200
> > > > Anders Fougner <anders.fougner at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> So we should consider replacing the tagging scheme with one
> > > >> which isn't misunderstood so easily.
> > > >> The use of access:foot=*, access:bicycle=* has been proposed at
> > > >> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/access_restrictions_1.5#Namespace>
> > > >> but just not taken into use. It looks good, though...and
> > > >> wouldn't be so easily misunderstood, I believe.
> > > > Why it would not be "so easily misunderstood"?
> > > Well, I think it could be just because people intuitively think
> > > that highway=path, bicycle=no means it's a trail not _suitable_
> > > or comfortable with a bike. The word access is simply not there,
> > > and then they don't even think about that as a possibility. And,
> > > people not into mountain biking might believe that trails are not
> > > usable or accessible with bikes unless they are paved or
> > > otherwise designed for biking.
> > 
> > Adding access: will not improve anything as it is still not
> > indicating that it is about legal access. legal_access:bicycle=*
> > would at least give chance that it will be more easily understood
> > (not that it would be a good idea).
> > 
> 
> that would be one idea. Or accept the fact that people mess it up and
> subclass access into 
> * access:legal,
> * access:suitable
> 
> Just wondered - when did anyone here last see a wheelchair=no road
> sign? Is any of these 214658 tags correct?
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/?key=wheelchair&value=no

Note that whellchair tag is defined as "Indicate if a special place
can be used with wheelchairs.". It is not like bicycle or foot tags
that are defined to be about legal access.



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