[Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?
David Bannon
dbannon at internode.on.net
Tue Feb 3 06:03:32 UTC 2015
Good move Warin. At present, this key seems a bit light on for
documentation, no history and little info for any of it children.
Is it an 'approved' key ? Little use.
In the context where this discussion came up, camp_sites, I'd suggest
waste=chemical_toilet is the one we are interested in. The
waste=excrement mentions boat. Boat facilities are distinctly different,
usually relying on a large hose connecting the two tanks and a pump.
Chemical_toilets (in my experience) are a concrete 'bowl' about half a
square metre where the material in question is either poured or pumped.
Should we start by improving the documentation there ?
David
On Tue, 2015-02-03 at 12:05 +1100, Warin wrote:
> The key:amenity=waste_disposal has a sub key
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waste where some of the things
> you mention as stated. These presently are;
>
> * waste=trash - (for trash/rubbish)
> * waste=excrement - (for excrement evacuation systems for
> boats)
> * waste=oil - (for motoroil, diesel and emulsions)
> * waste=chemical_toilet - (for chemical toilets)
> * waste=grey_water - (for soapy water, like from showers and
> dish washing)
> * waste=drugs - to subtag a special container for the collection
> of pharmaceuticals / medicine / drugs
> * waste=organic
> * waste=plastic
> * waste=rubble
> * waste=scrap_metal
>
> The key:waste=excrement already exists as a sub tag under
> amenity=waste_disposal but the main page is not consistent with
> that ..
>
> Either the main page is wrong to exclude excrement OR the waste page
> is wrong to include it. Take your pick. I vote for excrement on the
> main wiki page, not for its exclusion.
>
> The main page also mentions "A place where canal boaters, caravaners
> etc. can dispose of rubbish (trash/waste)." better expressed as "A
> place where people can dispose of waste."? There are a few of these
> kind of statements that are tending to exclude things .. when there is
> no alternative and where the key:waste= includes them.
>
>
> ------------------ Recycling?
> I'd think bins dedicated to recycling would be better tagged using the
> existing amenity=recycling
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Drecycling .
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/02/2015 11:36 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
>
> > The problem is that "waste" as currently defined in the wiki refers
> > to things you want to dispose of that would come out of a home or
> > office, things like table scraps, cans and bottles, paper, discarded
> > packaging materials. My term for this is trash or garbage. These
> > days much of that is recycled, especially in certain environmentally
> > aware communities, but that's far from being the general case. As
> > usual, there are differing definitions for these terms depending on
> > where you live and what you are accustomed to.
> >
> > If you rewrite the wiki definition of amenity=waste_disposal to
> > include sewage I think you'll invite a lot of extra discussion and
> > run into a dead end with your proposal. Using it with a subkey like
> > waste=sewage might be a better approach but then there needs to be a
> > bunch of other waste=* subkeys for recyclable items, paper items,
> > etc.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Reading the wiki on key:amenity=waste_disposal
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%
> > 3Dwaste_disposal
> >
> > says .. it is not for 'watery waste disposal' .. yet the
> > key:waste says it is for 'watery waste disposal'!!!!
> >
> > It needs a rewrite into a sensible thing! That is
> > consistent! And does not reference old history but simply
> > states what it it for and how to use it...
> >
> > Any objections to a rewrite .. you can if you wish leave it
> > to me .. (with possible speeelin errors and auto
> > corrections) ?
> >
> >
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