[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

[David Bannon]

On Mon, 2015-02-09 at 09:15 +1100, Warin wrote:
> A proposal for a new high level tag of .. Rubbish :-)

Sigh ... .

OK, its a good solution but before I'd vote for it, I'd like someone to
explain a few things to me -

Firstly, how is rubbish= a better solution than the slight redefinition
of waste= ??  I mean declare waste= to be that higher level key, no
longer requiring amenity=waste_disposal. There are already 5K uses, I'd
be very surprised if any of those uses would be broken by the
redefinition.

Secondly, if we approve rubbish=, do we then mark the waste= approach as
obsolete, less preferred or whatever ?  Having two ways of tagging the
same thing is bad IMHO.

Thirdly, dare I say this, will someone argue rubbish= indicates that
there is rubbish there, on that spot ?  preferable to say
rubbish_disposal or something similar. 

I do believe we need a high level key for rubbish, trash, waste whatever

Hmm, rubbish_receptacle perhaps ? And definitely not
rubbish_receptacle_desk !!

(sorry)

David 




> 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features_key%3Drubbish
> 
> At present there as a number of 'waste' values under the amenity key. 
> Some people say the amenity key is being over used. There are people 
> thinking of adding more waste values to the amenity key. So there is a 
> case for a high level new key for waste facilities. The number of 
> possible values of this is key I estimate at 27. Don't fixate on the 
> values of this key - the ones shown are examples only .. and would need 
> there own separate proposals.
> 
> Unfortunately the key waste= is already in use, so to avoid conflicts 
> and mistakes a new name should be used - thus 'rubbish'.
> 
> ========================
> Is there a better way? So far the choices look to be;
> 
> A) More values under the key amenity such as amenity=waste_dump_station?
> B) More values under amenity=waste_disposal in the key waste=?
> OR
> C) New top level key rubbish= with new values under that?
> 
> Any other options?
> And what one do you prefer? May be a why would be good.
> 
> Personally .. I don't know. I think a new top level tag would be good in 
> that it does separte it out from hte others and provides a clear path 
> for new rubbish tags. But I also acknowledge the problems/work that this 
> would introduce. On htewhole I'd go with the neew top level tag, I like 
> a good structure, but any other good ideas or arguments can easily sway 
> my present view.
> 
> ---------------------
> I'd like to leave the comments open for 3 weeks .. unless there is a 
> vast amount of comments made and changes/additions to the different 
> choices that could be made.
> So possible closure on 2 march?
> 
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