[Tagging] Breakdown bays?

John Willis johnw at mac.com
Sat Feb 28 12:30:33 UTC 2015




> On Feb 28, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Like those, but to me it doesn't feel right to draw a separate service way for them. There is no division like between dual carriageways. It's merely the road that becomes a bit wider, so the buses can get out of the way of the other traffic.

That is a turnout. 

Maybe people are talking about something more... Separate(?) from the roadway? Some of the old tollways here in Japan used to have bus stops along them, so they had a small little area with an access road for the bus, separated by a median or hedge, that led to a bus stop accessible by pedestrians. The service raid reconnected to the tollway a few hundred meters up, allowing the bus not to have to exit the motorway to drop off and pickup people. 

Those have now closed, and they are merely used for emergency parking and have a call box. 

I understand that some (well, a lot) of turnouts have call boxes on popular, yet narrow roads, but the turnout is primarily used for passing. 
It sounds like these breakdown bays have larger areas or purpose built roads, kind of like a chain changing station. 

Or is everyone describing a turnout with a call box(emergency phone)?

Javbw
> 
> Drawing the platform as a separate way, or the cycleway that becomes detached is not a problem, but indirect.
> 
> Jo
> 
> 2015-02-27 19:23 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl>:
>> Bus bays like this?
>> 
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/287489422
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>>> On 2015-02-27 18:38, Jo wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can't help but keep hoping that a way to tag bus bays emerges as a side product of this discussion. At the moment I'm resorting to drawing the platform way, the cycleway or the landuse around them, but there are cases where the cycleway goes straight through them, as well and that's not really mapping the feature itself, of course. 
>>> 
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/288901664
>>> 
>>> For somebody who'd, for example, want to make statistics on the number of such bays, that's totally useless. I know.
>>> 
>>> Jo
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 2015-02-27 18:00 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> 2015-02-27 17:33 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt <bryce2 at obviously.com>:
>>>>> These bays are, in a sense, very restricted amenity=parking,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I agree on landuse=highway (because they are clearly part of the highway), although that doesn't seem to be a very helpful way of tagging, I'd also include them in area:highway but they are in no way amenity=parking in my understanding. "parking" is different from "break-down" even if it might look similar (car is not moving).
>>>> 
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Martin
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