[Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 64, Issue 10

Ulrich Lamm ulamm.brem at t-online.de
Sat Jan 3 04:37:03 UTC 2015


Meaning of verbs
Am 02.01.2015 um 23:44 schrieb tagging-request at openstreetmap.org:

>> 
>> "It is also possible to use {{Tag|sidewalk|right}}/*=left [on
>> highway=cycleway] to indicate which side of the segregated path
>> pedestrians should walk on (where right/left is relative to the way's
>> direction)."
>> 
>> It was originally contributed by ulamm and modified by RobJN after a
>> short discussion (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:RobJN).
>> But this is the opposite of what is written on
>> 
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sidewalks
>> 
>> "The inclusion of sidewalk information makes it easier to provide
>> effective pedestrian routing, and in particular good narrative
>> descriptions of pedestrian routes along motorised roads. The sidewalk
>> tag is not needed on non-motorised thoroughfares, for example
>> highway=footway/cycleway/path/brideway/track. "
> • "not needed" is not the same as "must not be needed"
> • The combination of highway=cycleway with sidewak=right or *=left needs less tags 
> than the conventional combination of highway=path or highway=cycleway with biycyle=designated + foot=designated + segregated=yes.
>> 
>> I think there better solutions to the problem than ulamm's.
> Tell us a solution that describes the existence of a cycletrack and a parallel footway without more tags and without any loss of exactness!
>> 
>> If there are no further arguments, I will remove the sentence from the
>> first citation. What is your opinion on that?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Tobias
> 
In my answer on Tobias unfortunately I followed his mistake, half way.

He had not only commixed a statement with an order, he had also read "to need" as "to use".

Now I tell it more precisely:  
"is not needed on non-motorized thoroughfares" means "on non-motorized thoroughfares it can be described without that tag",
but it does not mean "on non-motorized thoroughfares it must be described without that tag".

Yours', Ulrich

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