[Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

Andreas Goss andig88 at t-online.de
Sat Jan 24 10:18:47 UTC 2015


> The counter-argument is that a novice is less likely to break the data
> when updating an area that is mapped using associatedStreet. I like
> the fact the fact that people need not even be aware of addresses in
> order to fix a street name.

I disagree. Awareness is exactly what you need. I destroyed many of them 
in the beginning, because I remapped areas andt replaces nodes with the 
proper outlines etc.

> Being able to add/fix housenumbers without
> having to worry about addr:street (which would be very cumbersome on
> mobile devices editors - editing while surveying FTW) is also a big
> plus.

I really don't get this. If you are able to add house numbers, why would 
you be likely to fuck up street names? If at all seeing addr:street when 
on the ground is good, because you can be sure it's you are adding it to 
the right building and can also fix possible street errors. It's not 
like every street relation is perfect. I also don't get what's 
cumbersome of having a line for street name on your mobile device editor.

> Given that relations in general are not going away, the proper
> solution to the "novices have trouble with relations" problem is not
> to use less relations but to make relations easyer to edit and better
> documented. FWIW, I feel there is slow but steady progress in that
> domain.

Considering that we get more and more editors that are specilized on 
adding just a certain kind of feature that's not going to happen. Yes, 
relations won't go away, but if I make a very simple map and specilaized 
editor I can usually ignore them.

One good example is https://openbeermap.github.io/
Adding simple stuff like name and opening hours to a few basic amenities 
isn't something that requires you to bother with relations. If they 
wanted to inlude addresses then it would be 100x easier for them to just 
add 4 lines for the addr: tags which use exactly the same code as the 
other already existing fields. With a associatedStreet relation this 
would take a lot more effort.
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