[Tagging] To tag "opening_hours=by appointment"

André Pirard A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com
Thu Jul 2 15:37:00 UTC 2015

On 2015-06-30 14:04, Marc Gemis wrote :
> Everything between quotes is considered a comment, and can contain
> values in the local language (e.g  123 "nach␣Vereinbarung"
> <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/opening_hours=%22nach%20Vereinbarung%22> --
> German for by appointment)
> IMHO this means that there is nothing to formalize. This also means
> that ..."Sa 09:00-18:00 + appointment" is a comment and nothing has to
> be parsed.
> This should be  ...; Sa 09:00-18:00; "Sa also by appointment"
> see
> also http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours/specification  at
> the bottom.
> m.

IMVHO, documentation improvement and some sort of formalization is
needed because:

  * I had asked the same question here before in the same terms
    ("appointment") and it is asked again
  * I had overlooked "on appointment"  10 times in a page that states
    rules in examples "to be grasped"
  * Key:opening_hours
    <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours>  does not
    contain the word "comment" and, as I read before, mappers don't have
    15 min to spend reading the full specification down to the end
  * comments should be explained in the syntax, including explicitly
    that they're used to be displayed on user screen, because this
    example doesn't seem to be the case : /"on appointment"; PH off "But
    not on public holidays (always closed). You don’t need to write this
    comment for values in OSM. Documentation purpose only."/"
  * and probably add "by schedule (see Web page)" for scheduled occurrences
  * I've had a look at Osmand and, albeit they show opening-hours, they
    will *not* show opening_hours="by appointment".
  * if Osmand did not understand the doc, there *is* a problem (IMVHO)
  * I first wanted to improve my "simplified syntax" with this, but as I
    was scolded for writing it and as as it got erased, I will let you
    do that.



> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     On 30/06/2015 8:09 PM, Warin wrote:
>>     Hi,
>>     I have a place that has "by appointment" .. and I have tagged it
>     Arr now read the discussion on this subject hidden on the wiki
>     discussion page. I think it needs to go on the 'front' page...
>     Changed entry to
>>     open_hours="by appointment"
>     That covers my case,  but see example below..
>>     There is a fair amount of use of 'appointment' for opening hours
>>     with lots of variety.
>>     Favourites are
>     the simple ones
>>     on appointment
>>     by appointment
>>     Few with capitols.
>     Then the 'problem' ones ..these are few .. but people are tagging
>     them so they exist and should have some solution?
>>     And few with things like
>>     Mo-Tu,Th-Fr 09:00-13:00,14:00-18:00;We 09:00-13:00; "Sa
>>     by_appointment"
>>     <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/opening_hours=Mo-Tu%2CTh-Fr%2009%3A00-13%3A00%2C14%3A00-18%3A00%3BWe%2009%3A00-13%3A00%3B%20%22Sa%20by_appointment%22>
>>     It would be nice to formalise this use on the wiki before it becomes very diverse? 
>>     Perhaps the simple use of 'appointment' without 'by' or 'on' would be simplest? 
>>     The above example could become 
>>     Mo-Tu,Th-Fr 09:00-13:00,14:00-18:00;We 09:00-13:00; "Sa 09:00-18:00 +_appointment" <http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/opening_hours=Mo-Tu%2CTh-Fr%2009%3A00-13%3A00%2C14%3A00-18%3A00%3BWe%2009%3A00-13%3A00%3B%20%22Sa%20by_appointment%22>
>>     To mean that an appointment is required for Saturday between 9 am and 6 pm. 
>>     Thoughts? 
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