[Tagging] service=rural (Was Rural Alley?)

Andrew Errington erringtona at gmail.com
Sun Jul 12 01:39:51 UTC 2015


I think an additional tag is not necessary.  I think is is sufficient
to tag them with highway=service.  Remember, service=* is simply
clarifying the kind of service road.

They are definitely not tracks.  I remember the discussion about
clarifying track grade 1 and I thought it was stretching a point.

Routers should have a concept of a road hierarchy, and should "prefer"
higher-classed roads (unless the user specifies otherwise).  The
simplest router could then make a good route by looking only at
highway=*.  Maxspeed, lanes, and other information can refine a route,
and help make a choice between a speed-limited trunk road and a
longer, but unrestricted primary road, for example.

To me, the hierarchy is obvious: motorway, trunk, primary, secondary,
tertiary, unclassified, service, residential, track.  No matter what
grade a track is, it should never be chosen in preference to a service
road, or unclassified.

Andrew

On 12/07/2015, johnw <johnw at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 12, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What you are trying to map is a landuse rather than the highways service?
>>
>
> Imagine you live on a farm and you’ve never seen a a big city's alley - how
> would you explain why there is a narrow road next to the main road? the main
> road is “too busy?” do they really need to make the road so narrow it is not
> useful for much else than local access?
>
> In the city and suburban areas, we recognize that there is a road below
> residental/unclassified, but is not a track. We call it an Alley, and define
> it through highway=service & service=alley. Alleys would then connect to
> driveways, tracks, and other more local access roads.
>
> In my extensive driving experience in rural California, OSM’s definition of
> rural roads works very well. There are no rural alleys. There are service
> roads for individual facilities, but not in the public/narrow/parallel
> “alley” sense.
>
> But when mapping Rural Japan, IMO, there *is* a road grade between
> unclassified/residential and Track. It is not too difficult to see them when
> you live here, but it is difficult to explain. The guy mapping Korea chimed
> in that it is similar there. The road network in rural ares is *as dense and
> complicated* as the city to facilitate access to farm field sections or
> other rural land-uses. The sections are further subdivided by
> tracks/paths/driveways, like a city. I bet in other very rural, old, and
> high population density countries (in Asia),  this is the case too, if they
> have money to maintain all of these paved roads.
>
> And using track+grade1 on them seems wrong.
>
> So I would like to formalize a rural sibling for alley. I called it
> service=rural, becuase it’s counterpart is found in cities and suburbs.
>
>
> Javbw



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