[Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

John Willis johnw at mac.com
Tue Jun 9 21:38:33 UTC 2015

> On Jun 9, 2015, at 9:25 PM, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
> P brands (Arco, Amoco, BP, Aral, am/pm, Wild Bean) usually make you go inside anyway and don't let you pay at the pump.

A long time ago the self pumps were crap - but i have never seen pufdles of fuel anywhere. 

Now basically 95% of pumps in California are self, open 24/7, and pay at the pump with a card reader or RFID token. At night there no attendants at many places. Everyone is very comfortable putting gas in the car, and with a vapor recovery system mandatory (on gasoline cars) not even the fumes escape when fueling, let alone liquid. 

They are pretty damn clean. 

In Japan, Self is very popular, and similarly very clean - though as a californian, the lack of vapor recovery means filling up the tank causes it to shoot sninky vapor out around the nozzle - so they have plastic gloves and a little towel for you there - rather than making the cars have a vapor recovery system. 

Maybe in places where self is second rate, people have trouble or cause spills, but i think most Californians could be considered "gas station attendants "


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