[Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Wed Jun 10 12:16:35 UTC 2015

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:38 PM, John Willis <johnw at mac.com> wrote:

> > On Jun 9, 2015, at 9:25 PM, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
> >
> > P brands (Arco, Amoco, BP, Aral, am/pm, Wild Bean) usually make you go
> inside anyway and don't let you pay at the pump.
> A long time ago the self pumps were crap - but i have never seen pufdles
> of fuel anywhere.
> Now basically 95% of pumps in California are self, open 24/7, and pay at
> the pump with a card reader or RFID token. At night there no attendants at
> many places. Everyone is very comfortable putting gas in the car, and with
> a vapor recovery system mandatory (on gasoline cars) not even the fumes
> escape when fueling, let alone liquid.
> They are pretty damn clean.
> In Japan, Self is very popular, and similarly very clean - though as a
> californian, the lack of vapor recovery means filling up the tank causes it
> to shoot sninky vapor out around the nozzle - so they have plastic gloves
> and a little towel for you there - rather than making the cars have a vapor
> recovery system.
> Maybe in places where self is second rate, people have trouble or cause
> spills, but i think most Californians could be considered "gas station
> attendants"

Selective blindness?  California's not exactly been an exception when I've
been there.
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