[Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

John Eldredge john at jfeldredge.com
Wed Jun 10 18:02:22 UTC 2015

>From my experience in the USA, prepay is only available by going inside and 
paying the clerk. If it turns out you didn't have enough room in your fuel 
tank for the amount you prepaid for, you go inside a second time and get a 
refund. The majority of self-service stations now require that you either 
pay at the pump with a card, or come inside and prepay if you will be using 
cash, because of people pumping fuel and then driving away without paying.

John F. Eldredge -- john at jfeldredge.com
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot 
drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.

On June 10, 2015 12:55:14 PM Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 07:15 -0500, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:47 AM, <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Why worry, the ANPR cameras will get you anyway.
> > I'd honestly be surprised if those are widely employed, because
> > they're damn near useless.  There's well over 200 varieties of
> > license plates issued in Oklahoma by the state.
> They are widely used in UK, most fuel stations in the UK have them to
> prevent driveoffs, there is no prepay in the UK only go in and pay or
> pay-at-pump and most pay-at-pump is dual purpose.
> Eurotunnel certainly use it at checkin, and it would be a non-starter
> if it couldn't detect French, German, Dutch or Belgian plates. Although
> it is helped by only needing to recognise number that are booked.
> It is used for parking enforement at motorway service areas, if you are
> staying at a hotel or at a resturant you give them your number and they
> authorise you.
> The London Congestion Charge is based on it, as is freeflow tolling at
> the Dartford crossing, actually its used for tolling in Ontario which
> uses US style plates.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Highway_407
> > Most of the tribes also have issuing authority and often have
> > multiple varieties of plates themselves (these can get quite nuanced,
> > for example, a disabled Cherokee veteran plate replaces the tribe's
> > seal with the coat of arms, with the flags of the Cherokee Nation and
> > the country (even if not US) they served for.  Not all of these
> > plates stick to strictly characters found on a US English keyboard,
> > either (some varieties of Cherokee plates also have no English on
> > them, though the number may have English characters).
> I am surprised non-latin characters are allowed, whilst I am used to
> seeing foreign plates, I can read them. Some German plates have umlauts
> on them, but easily read. What happens if they drive off after an
> accident?
> Phil (trigpoint)
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