[Tagging] Mapping private home toilets

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at gmail.com
Tue Mar 3 15:11:06 UTC 2015


To be clear: I contacted DERMAM <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/DERMAM>
but I am not expecting reply, account is inactive since 6 months.
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/DERMAM>

2015-03-03 16:09 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at gmail.com>:

> I would remove such objects where I am surveying. In that case I contacted
> author of tag with information that amenity=toilets is defined as public
> toilet.
>
> 2015-03-03 16:00 GMT+01:00 John F. Eldredge <john at jfeldredge.com>:
>
>>   However, since someone apparently HAS been mapping private toilets, we
>> need to either decide to remove them, or decide how they should be tagged
>> to distinguish them from toilets available to the general public.
>>
>> --
>> John F. Eldredge -- john at jfeldredge.com
>> "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot
>> drive out hate; only love can do that." Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
>>
>> On March 3, 2015 12:34:22 AM Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Excluding private toilet seems a sane step for a general purpose map."
>>>
>>> Completely private toilets (especially home toilets) may not be mapped
>>> with amenity=toilet, what solves rendering problems.
>>>
>>> Public toilets with restricted access should be mapped with appropriate
>>> access tag.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-03-03 2:58 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt <bryce2 at obviously.com>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:44 PM, John Willis <johnw at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > On Mar 3, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > 2) new key ... private=* ?
>>>>> +1
>>>>> If OSM wants to be used in emergency uses or be flexible for odd data
>>>>> sets, mapping private toilets (or propane ovens, house-top solar panels, or
>>>>> places where x is useful
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1) Tagging your neighbor's toilet/oven/Ferrari could easily be seen as
>>>> coveting those items.  I don't recommend it.  YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> 2) A "private=" tag only works for certain tag types.
>>>> However a namespace could work.  "disused:" is one such namespace.  For
>>>> reference a sample use of "disused:" is:
>>>> "disused:amenty=toilet  , disused:note=Burned down 2014, scheduled for
>>>> a rebuild August 2015".
>>>> So you could entertain "private:amenity=toilet".
>>>>
>>>> 3)  We already have "access=private", a well established tag.  The
>>>> question is which private things should be excluded from
>>>> rendered maps (e.g. toilets), and which ones should show (e.g.
>>>> buildings).
>>>> Excluding private toilet seems a sane step for a general purpose map.
>>>> Else you get this:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3066715547#map=18/-16.03918/34.72667
>>>>
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