[Tagging] recent change to ranger_station proposal

Clifford Snow clifford at snowandsnow.us
Thu Mar 5 04:09:48 UTC 2015

There is a pretty complete wiki [1] page for US NPS tagging. Looks like we
could use some clarification of Ranger Station, but the visitor center is
mapped as information <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:information>=
office <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:information%3Doffice>
tourism <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourism>=information


[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_National_Park_Service_Tagging

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Dave Swarthout <daveswarthout at gmail.com>

> It sounds like the original meaning of ranger_station might have described
> what I would term a Visitor Center. After reading these responses to my
> post, and realizing that there are many parks with visitor centers (even
> here in Thailand) that cannot be tagged under the present system, its
> obvious to me that we need to add a new tag amenity=visitor_center. Visitor
> Centers range from simple to quite lavish (think Yellowstone, Denali NPs);
> these are definitely not ranger stations.
> To me, an American, a ranger_station is a more work oriented place, as
> Javbw suggests, where "park rangers meet, safety services (first aid,
> search&rescue) are handled, and the rangers actually reside during the
> season" while a visitor center has displays, an information desk or other
> such facility, restrooms, telephones, and shops.
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:33 AM, johnw <johnw at mac.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Russell Deffner <russell.deffner at hotosm.org>
>> wrote:
>> Maybe someone can confirm this, but I think it might actually be the
>> difference in language from the Park Service versus Forest Service; i.e. in
>> a National Forest you find Ranger Stations, in the Parks you find Visitor
>> Centers?
>> =Russ
>> good question - But I think we should have a generic term for all of
>> them. The name=* can differentiate them from each other.
>> I always think of larger camps where they might have a toll booth at the
>> entrance for campers, an information kiosk for hikers and campers,
>> and a true ranger station where the park rangers meet, safety services
>> (first aid, search&rescue) are handled, and the rangers actually reside
>> during the season.
>> There are also those “ranger cabins” that you find off-trail where
>> rangers live when they are in charge of patrolling the trails in a
>> wilderness area.
>> toll_booth should cover the little buildings that take money from
>> arriving and departing guests,  information= tags can cover the kiosks and
>> signs, and reception_desk was specifically made for situations where
>> campers need to check in to register fro their spots.
>> The Ranger station/visitor center might be a big building that does all
>> of these jobs, but there should be some points created int he building area
>> that micro-map all of these functions.
>> Some park campgrounds have *a lot* of buildings (thinking of Paso Picacho
>> and Green Valley Falls in San Diego).
>> This would also work for car camping sites, boy scout camps, and other
>> non-park service camping places (car camps in Japan and in the US are quite
>> similar), so the name should be somewhat generic and agnostic.
>> Javbw
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