[Tagging] Current status of the key smoothness=*

Jan van Bekkum jan.vanbekkum at gmail.com
Thu Mar 12 06:05:49 UTC 2015

I don't say that the pictures are wrong, but it would be helpful to have
perhaps six representative pictures of every level.

Related question: does the tag only cover uneven ground or also for example
also deep soft sand that may be difficult to cross. The tag surface=sand in
itself doesn't tell much how hard is is to pass. What I am looking for is a
tag that tells me how much trouble I will have passing irrespective of the
importance of the road (highway=*) or the surface.

An extra complexity is that the ease of passing may be season dependent
(wet sand is easier to drive than dry sand), what about seasonal river
crossings (seasonal=yes and ford=yes by itself don't tell the whole story).

"Smoothness" may not be the perfect phrase, but the bottom line question
is: how hard is it to pass with a 2WD, 4WD, motorcycle etc.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:25 PM David <dbannon at internode.on.net> wrote:

> I am a little unsure what the problem is with the pictures. Could you be a
> bit more specific please Friedrich ?
> It would be very hard to have a set of pictures that cover every case but,
> as Jan said, if we are only one level out, thats still very useful
> information. Honestly, while not very clear, the pictures look about right
> to me.
> David
> .
> Friedrich Volkmann <bsd at volki.at> wrote:
> >On 11.03.2015 17:29, Jan van Bekkum wrote:
> >> Perhaps we can extend the library of pictures in the wiki to give
> people a
> >> better feeling which rating means what.
> >
> >I agree that work on the pictures is needed. The values and their verbal
> >descriptions are approved, and they look sound, while the bogus pictures
> are
> >not approved and they do not match the definitions. We should either
> replace
> >those pictures or just delete them.
> >
> >It seems to me that these pictures are the root of most of the controversy
> >and the reason why these tags are ignored by most mappers and data
> consumers.
> >
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