[Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

John F. Eldredge john at jfeldredge.com
Tue Mar 17 20:44:46 UTC 2015

Does the default rendering on the slippy map on OSM's main page show 
private objects? If it does, then there is a loss of privacy. If it 
doesn't, then there is a loss of feedback to mappers.

John F. Eldredge -- john at jfeldredge.com
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot 
drive out hate; only love can do that." Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

On March 16, 2015 7:08:34 PM Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 17/03/2015 10:46 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> >
> > "Please do not map private objects in private space.  In general if
> > the object could create a privacy concern, or is just not useful to
> > a member of the public, please don't add it to the database.  Note
> > it is fully OK to map facilities within membership or fee based venues,
> > as long as the facilities are reasonably available to members of the
> > public."
> >
> > *Examples not to map*: toilets in homes, employee only toilets in
> > businesses, private recycling bins, playgrounds in private homes or
> > day care facilities.
> >
> > *Examples to map: *toilets inside DisneyLand, buildings visible from
> > air photos, private facilities with a history of public "permissive" use.
> >
> If OSM encourages others to use the OSM data base.. why cannot they add
> data that is 'private' to them?
> If renderers were not to render any access=private object then the
> general public would not be aware of these 'private' objects and
> those who want them may enter them and configure there own render to
> show 'their' data alongside OSM data.
> One idea is to only map stuff that is 'publicly viewable'. Some define
> this as 'from a public place' such as a street. However with satellite
> views being publicly available then mapping things that are not viewable
> from a public street becomes possible with more accuracy than that of a
> visual estimation from a public street.
> I think that mapping stuff that is not usefull, in some way, is a waste
> of time, public stuff or private stuff. If a person with authority wants
> to map private stuff .. then I think that is OK. The key is the authority.
> And then the definition of 'private' is?
> Are Universities 'private'? Are bicycle repair stations inside
> university grounds private?
> Are private swimming pools in backyards to be mapped as they may be used
> in an emergency to fight fires?
> The boundaries between private and public are grey ... and then their is
> community emergency use. Murky waters.
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