[Tagging] Separating usage docs from design docs (was: Increasing voting participation)

Martin Vonwald imagic.osm at gmail.com
Wed Mar 18 14:06:49 UTC 2015

2015-03-18 14:14 GMT+01:00 moltonel 3x Combo <moltonel at gmail.com>:

> On 18/03/2015, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> > So please, don't go over board here by trying to force-involve every
> > mapper in tag votes; they're simply not important enough, and they
> > *should not be*. Don't try to make them important, lasting, or binding.
> +1 to all that. While I think that "voting" is very usefull, I think
> the whole concept of "accepting" a proposal (all the related arguments
> about voter thresholds) should be scraped entirely.
> Instead, how about revisiting the purpose of proposals pages vs key/tag
> pages :
> * key/tag pages would document the actual use (mainly observed via taginfo)
> * proposal pages would document a desired use (and include the current
> list of supporters/opponents)
> * ideally both pages would reference each other (many to many), maybe
> using a "used/encouraged/discouraged by <link>" template
> * key/tag pages could be kept up to date fairly objectively
> * proposal voters should put the page on their watchlist, in case a
> change in the proposal changes their opinion
> * proposals should only be "end-of-lifed" if there is near-unanimous
> opposition and near-zero actual usage
> This should clarify the old question of whether the wiki does/should
> document usage or intent. It'll allow competing proposals to coexist
> more visibly. It keeps the interesting "opinion poll" use of voting,
> while removing the obnoxious "proposal is ready ! vote now so that we
> can start using it !" calls.

Very good ideas and it would bring the original intention of OSM back into
the play: the numbers count and not the two-and-a-half people putting a
line starting with "yes" somewhere in the wiki.

Full support for this at least from my side.

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