[Tagging] Revisiting proposal/voting scheme

Dan S danstowell+osm at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 08:31:44 UTC 2015


2015-03-18 23:56 GMT+00:00 David Bannon <dbannon at internode.on.net>:
> Kotya, in no way was I criticising the leadership you have shown in this
> matter !
>
> Its just that I preferred Dan's approach. Key IMHO is -
>
> * A proposal gets to wiki in much the same manner as now.
>
> * Once on the wiki, instead of a formal vote period, users (eg) click a
> "like" or "dislike" button and aggregate score is shown. For some time
> (?). Obviously they can also edit content to say why.
>
> Now, we don't have that content freeze when voting formally starts. Is
> it a problem that I click 'like' and some important change is made to
> content later ?

Yes it's a problem, but I hope that's small enough to ignore, because
people can delete or switch their votes whenever they like. I guess in
the very very first stages, when someone writes something flawed, we
might want a "don't vote yet" stage (as we do now) so that a page
doesn't accumulate lots of {{no}} of which at least some of them won't
bother revisiting their opinion.

Dan


> David
>
> On Wed, 2015-03-18 at 23:57 +0100, Kotya Karapetyan wrote:
>
>
>> Ahhm, not sure how it is different, but never mind. I will be happy if
>> we all agree on a good solution, and I definitely don't claim the
>> authorship of all the good ideas that have popped up here over the
>> last couple of days. I just tried to summarize it in something that
>> looked to me like a working solution. Dan, thanks for making a good
>> illustration :)
>>
>>         Quite a good one really. It meets my
>>         criteria  of giving a new mapper some guidance on what he/she
>>         should
>>         use.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good to hear :)
>>
>>         Add in taginfo data.
>>
>>
>> Yes: "Opinions "for" and "against" are expressed in the discussions
>> and summarized at the top of the page (e.g. "advantages" and
>> "disadvantages" of a tag) together with the current usage"
>>
>>
>>         And maybe a list of competing approaches so, again, its clear
>>         to a new
>>         user what the options are.
>>
>>
>> It clearly belongs a "see also" section IMO.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         I do think we'd need to have some (usage determined ?) end
>>         point
>>         however. Who is going to register their approval of, eg,
>>         highway= this
>>         far down the track ?
>>
>>         I think data consumers also need a bit of certainty too.
>>
>>
>> End of what?
>>
>> Usage, as discussed in another thread, is a vague criterion. Two tags
>> may have a full support of the community, one having thousands of uses
>> and another (for a rare feature) ten.
>> For data consumers---definitely yes, and I suggest it being the moment
>> when we remove the "proposal" status, so the page becomes a feature
>> page. The moment can be "when the discussion calms down (which can
>> even be defined mathematically if needed)".
>>
>>
>> Sorry guys, no more spamming today :) Hopefully we'll converge to
>> something good, so these discussions won't be in vain :)
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kotya
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