[Tagging] Fuel shops

[Jan van Bekkum]

I would prefer a different tag as I would not like the lemonade table to be
rendered in the same way as a regular filling station. The tag shop=gas
with subtag would be better.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:46 AM Andrew Errington <erringtona at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think they should remain as amenity=fuel (I have visited Thailand and I
> know what you mean).  Local people will know what to expect, but for
> clarity perhaps subtags should be used to add detail and differentiate
> between a filling station and a "lemonade stand" selling fuel.
>
> On Thursday, 19 March 2015, Lukas Sommer <sommerluk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In Benin (Africa) these shops exist also – mostly only a table with
>> some big bottles with fuel.
>>
>> 2015-03-19 9:18 GMT, Dave Swarthout <daveswarthout at gmail.com>:
>> > I want to float an idea to get your reactions. Here in Thailand, and
>> > especially in rural areas, there are hundreds of shops that sell motor
>> fuel
>> > in small quantities. Most of the population drive motorbikes which are
>> used
>> > for every sort of transport imaginable. They have a tiny petrol tank,
>> > perhaps 4-5 liters, therefore a short range; they need frequent
>> fill-ups.
>> > To meet this need local individuals have set up small sheds or kiosks
>> from
>> > which they hand pump the small quantities needed. Some shops sell fuel
>> by
>> > the liter bottle, often a whiskey bottle. Such shops are poorly marked,
>> > seldom have any signs indicating their presence and typically offer no
>> > other services. If you live in the area you will know where the fuel
>> shop
>> > is, otherwise they're almost invisible
>> >
>> > At any rate, we're looking for a way to tag these fuel shops in such a
>> way
>> > that they become visible in OSM (and on our GPS units), and will not be
>> > mistaken for a full size fuel service station. Current tagging practice
>> is
>> > to tag them with amenity=fuel and a made up name, for example, Bike
>> petrol
>> > or Drummed fuel. The people doing this are aware of the fact that such
>> > tagging isn't strictly correct, but they understandably want to be able
>> to
>> > find those shops should they run out of fuel. One problem with this
>> > Thailand-centric approach, is that other data consumers are unaware of
>> it.
>> > Another is that the informal names are multiplying rapidly and one
>> mapper's
>> > drummed fuel is another's barreled fuel and another's Bike petrol.
>> Where it
>> > will end is anyone's guess.
>> >
>> > I'm suggesting an addition to the values of the shop key: shop=fuel or
>> > perhaps shop=motor_fuel
>> >
>> > My goal is to standardize the tagging so that at some point these shops
>> can
>> > be eventually rendered on Garmin compatible downloaded maps and hence
>> made
>> > visible. I have done this for my custom Garmin maps and find it a real
>> > asset.
>> >
>> > Here is a photo of such a shop in my neighborhood:
>> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3ABarreled_fuel_shop.jpg
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dave Swarthout
>> > Homer, Alaska
>> > Chiang Mai, Thailand
>> > Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lukas Sommer
>>
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