[Tagging] Fuel shops

Andrew Errington erringtona at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 10:44:15 UTC 2015


I think they should remain as amenity=fuel (I have visited Thailand and I
know what you mean).  Local people will know what to expect, but for
clarity perhaps subtags should be used to add detail and differentiate
between a filling station and a "lemonade stand" selling fuel.

On Thursday, 19 March 2015, Lukas Sommer <sommerluk at gmail.com> wrote:

> In Benin (Africa) these shops exist also – mostly only a table with
> some big bottles with fuel.
>
> 2015-03-19 9:18 GMT, Dave Swarthout <daveswarthout at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>:
> > I want to float an idea to get your reactions. Here in Thailand, and
> > especially in rural areas, there are hundreds of shops that sell motor
> fuel
> > in small quantities. Most of the population drive motorbikes which are
> used
> > for every sort of transport imaginable. They have a tiny petrol tank,
> > perhaps 4-5 liters, therefore a short range; they need frequent fill-ups.
> > To meet this need local individuals have set up small sheds or kiosks
> from
> > which they hand pump the small quantities needed. Some shops sell fuel by
> > the liter bottle, often a whiskey bottle. Such shops are poorly marked,
> > seldom have any signs indicating their presence and typically offer no
> > other services. If you live in the area you will know where the fuel shop
> > is, otherwise they're almost invisible
> >
> > At any rate, we're looking for a way to tag these fuel shops in such a
> way
> > that they become visible in OSM (and on our GPS units), and will not be
> > mistaken for a full size fuel service station. Current tagging practice
> is
> > to tag them with amenity=fuel and a made up name, for example, Bike
> petrol
> > or Drummed fuel. The people doing this are aware of the fact that such
> > tagging isn't strictly correct, but they understandably want to be able
> to
> > find those shops should they run out of fuel. One problem with this
> > Thailand-centric approach, is that other data consumers are unaware of
> it.
> > Another is that the informal names are multiplying rapidly and one
> mapper's
> > drummed fuel is another's barreled fuel and another's Bike petrol. Where
> it
> > will end is anyone's guess.
> >
> > I'm suggesting an addition to the values of the shop key: shop=fuel or
> > perhaps shop=motor_fuel
> >
> > My goal is to standardize the tagging so that at some point these shops
> can
> > be eventually rendered on Garmin compatible downloaded maps and hence
> made
> > visible. I have done this for my custom Garmin maps and find it a real
> > asset.
> >
> > Here is a photo of such a shop in my neighborhood:
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3ABarreled_fuel_shop.jpg
> >
> > --
> > Dave Swarthout
> > Homer, Alaska
> > Chiang Mai, Thailand
> > Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
> >
>
>
> --
> Lukas Sommer
>
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